<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Yes Stefano, </div><div><br></div><div>As Harold suggests, the Agile Open program might be something to look into. </div><div><br></div><div>Also the XP2014 conference is in Rome this year May 26-30. The main conference days May 27-29 will feature a parallel open space. I will be in Rome for it and would enjoy meeting with you too. I could tell you about the other resources and supports I'm familiar with. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure there are other wonderful OS facilitators based in Italy who could also help. </div><div><br></div><div>Diana<br><br><div>Diana Larsen</div><div><a href="http://futureworksconsulting.com">http://futureworksconsulting.com</a></div><div>Sent from my iPad. Please excuse typos & other fumble fingered effects.</div></div><div><br>On Mar 24, 2014, at 15:43, Stefano Lucantoni <<a href="mailto:stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com">stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Harold, thanks for your suggestions.</div><div>I didn't know the Open Agile Program, it seems really interesting and starting one of these conferences in Italy is an exciting option. Next summer I know that there will be a two Open Space days for the Italian Agile Coach Camp... Maybe they adhere to the program.</div><div><br></div><div>About Daniel Mezick I know his work very well and our first Open Space should be our first step adopting his OAA framework. Unfortunately I can't attend his first training at the end of April.</div><div>Waiting for future training in Europe, in the mean time we'll try to do the best with the help of his book (The Culture Game) and all the useful stuff he published on his site.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for your suggestions.</div><div>Cheers</div><div>Stefano</div><div><br>Il giorno 23/mar/2014, alle ore 14:51, Harold Shinsato <<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a>> ha scritto:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A fellow agilist! Welcome Stefano. Glad
      to be reading your questions and remembering the tension and the
      joys of the first time opening the circle.<br>
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      Many from within a company have facilitated an open space for that
      company. I've done it myself at SAP back in 2008. But this is a
      lot like the recommended division of roles between the scrum
      master and the product owner. They don't mix well, because in many
      ways the Scrum Master is supposed to be a facilitator, whereas the
      Product Owner is more like a boss.<br>
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      Also, the traditional team manager is definitely *not* a good
      candidate as the scrum master. If you are the manager of the team
      or group, being the facilitator is extremely challenging. If
      someone owns the decision making - it is very hard to give up that
      decision making to the team. And even worse if you are determining
      their salaries and whether or not they get fired or promoted. But
      if you are seen as being on the same level as the rest of the team
      or group, it's much easier for you to be considered neutral and
      capable of keeping the space safe and open for new ideas and
      challenging opinions. I don't see a problem with a good agile
      coach being a facilitator for an open space. Though I think Daniel
      Mezick has an interesting view on that. More about Daniel later.<br>
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      As an agile coach - you might be interested in two pieces of
      history. Diana Larsen is on this list, and has been at the core of
      the Agile Open program, <a href="http://www.agilealliance.org/programs/agile-open-program/">http://www.agilealliance.org/programs/agile-open-program/</a>
      , which has used open space on the agile theme starting in
      Portland but now is happening in several places in the country. My
      annual Montana Open Space conference just joined that program this
      year - our MACH One @Missoula. Shameless plug. <a href="http://machmissoula.org">http://machmissoula.org</a>. They
      are fantastic conferences if you get a chance. You might even
      consider starting one in Italy.<br>
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      A second newer piece, Daniel Mezick is promoting a framework that
      makes Open Space the center piece of an organizational adoption of
      agile and has some great experience and ideas on how to make that
      successful. The Open Agile Adoption framework. <a href="http://newtechusa.net/open-agile-adoption/">http://newtechusa.net/open-agile-adoption/</a>.
      He's been active on this list as well. He has said it's better for
      the facilitator to be external so they are not considered as part
      of the team, and I think if you were doing a formal OAA process,
      you're supposed to find an external facilitator.<br>
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          Cheers,<br>
          Harold<br>
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      On 3/22/14 12:25 PM, Stefano Lucantoni wrote:<br>
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            <div>Well, I think there was a little misunderstanding and
              for sure it's my fault.</div>
            <div>I'm not the CEO but one of the three agile coaches of
              our company.</div>
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            <div>Our work is focused on helping our company to upgrade
              its culture (we started as Scrum Masters and now we work
              at all the company levels) and Open Space is the most
              powerful tool to support us with this big challenge.</div>
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            <div>Since the beginning I thought that as company coach and
              facilitator it could be ok to facilitate this meeting too,
              even tough I'm a company employee. Am I wrong?</div>
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            <div>Anyway now I know that you Gerardo are very close to me
              and it would be great to establish a direct contact during
              the next days.</div>
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            <div>Please, let me all know what you think.</div>
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            <div>Tks everybody</div>
            <div>Stefano</div>
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              Il giorno 21/mar/2014, alle ore 21:51, Suzanne Daigle <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sdaigle4@gmail.com">sdaigle4@gmail.com</a>>
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                <p dir="ltr">What a treat to have a CEO immersed in Open
                  Space and an Agile Scrum guy to boot! I agree with
                  Harrison; it will lead to amazing things for your
                  company if you jump in the ring with everyone. So
                  inspired. Wish we had met in Paris. I was there then.
                  Keep us posted!</p>
                <p dir="ltr">Suzanne</p>
                <p dir="ltr">P.S. Gerardo translated Harrison's user
                  guide in Italian. I have my very own copy which
                  Gerardo signed dedicating it to my dad who read the
                  book from cover to cover years ago in Italian. He was
                  a medical doctor. He loved it!</p>
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 21, 2014 4:24 PM,
                  "Harrison Owen" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Stefano
                            – If Milano can talk to Roma, good things
                            might happen! </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                            was going to add in my previous note that
                            while it is certainly possible for the CEO
                            to facilitate an Open Space as you propose,
                            that would not be my first choice for
                            several reasons. First – no matter what you
                            say you will STILL be the Boss (or whatever)
                            – which makes it harder to believe that it
                            really is Open Space, and that you are not
                            setting the agenda. As you probably know by
                            now, it is virtually impossible to “control”
                            an Open Space. Certainly you can shut it
                            down, but you and everybody else will be out
                            of control, simply because everybody is “in
                            control.” You know that, but your people
                            don’t, at least for their first Open Space.
                            So I would not put unneeded barriers in the
                            way, even if they will be cast aside. The
                            second reason that doing it yourself is
                            problematical is that as facilitator, you
                            really need to keep your hands out of things
                            (present and invisible, so to speak). But
                            then everybody loses, assuming that you have
                            some value to add. Which I am sure you do. </span></p>
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                            do yourself and everybody else a favor.
                            Invite my good friend Gerardo (Milano) to do
                            the honors. And if he can’t, there are many
                            other good folks, all speaking Italian. If
                            he/they can take care of the space, you can
                            have the marvelous fun of playing in it with
                            all your comrades. At least that is what I
                            would do.</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
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                            Owen</span></p>
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                            MD 20854</span></p>
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                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stefano Lucantoni<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 21, 2014 9:46
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                              <b>To:</b> World wide Open Space
                              Technology email list<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] My first OS
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hege, tks for
                                    your words. <br>
                                    I'm very lucky because I'm part of a
                                    team (agile coaches team) who shared
                                    strong values and maybe our passion
                                    was capable to 'infect' our
                                    management.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">We hope
                                  OS will be a first step toward a new
                                  way to live collaboration in our
                                  company.</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">We're going to do a
                                one day Open Space.</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">And to answer
                              to a previous Suzanne question: we're
                              located in Rome.</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at
                              1:30 PM, Hege Steinsland <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steinslandhege@gmail.com" target="_blank">steinslandhege@gmail.com</a>>
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                                Stefano, I wish you all the best and
                                congratulate you with your courage and
                                the trust your company shows in you and
                                the method! A great opportunity! I looke
                                forward to listen to your experience.
                                Are you doing a one ore two days Open
                                space?</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">All the best from</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hege</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Norway.</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">21. mars 2014
                                      kl. 13:16 skrev Stefano Lucantoni
                                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com" target="_blank">stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com</a>>:</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks
                                              a lot Suzanne. <br>
                                              I'm reading Harrison's
                                              guide again and again and
                                              I admit that the more I
                                              read it the more the
                                              stress drops down because
                                              it really seems to me that
                                              the Open Space is self
                                              sufficient or anyway needs
                                              a very small help.</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
                                              again for your support.</p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Ciao</p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Stefano</p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri,
                                            Mar 21, 2014 at 1:58 AM,
                                            Suzanne Daigle <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sdaigle4@gmail.com" target="_blank">sdaigle4@gmail.com</a>>
                                            wrote:</p>
                                          <p>Stefano...bravo! Love the
                                            theme, love that you will
                                            have 100 people and most
                                            especially that you have
                                            invited your organization
                                            into Open Space. Besides
                                            telling you to enjoy the
                                            experience, I would refer
                                            you to Harrison's guide.
                                            After 5 years I still go
                                            back to it to do the basic
                                            preparations and to also
                                            sink into my invisible role
                                            opening and holding the
                                            space. Where are you
                                            located?</p>
                                          <p>Thank you for sharing and
                                            making us part of your first
                                            experience. Remember you can
                                            do no wrong. It will happen
                                            with you and in spite of
                                            you.<br>
                                            Keep us posted. <br>
                                            Suzanne</p>
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                                                  On Mar 20, 2014 6:49
                                                  PM, "Stefano
                                                  Lucantoni" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com" target="_blank">stefano.lucantoni@gmail.com</a>>
                                                  wrote:</p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Dear
                                                    all,<br>
                                                    I'm new to this OS
                                                    world. After my
                                                    first, and unique,
                                                    OS experience in
                                                    Paris during last
                                                    September (The
                                                    Global Scrum
                                                    Gathering) I came
                                                    back home with the
                                                    idea to adopt this
                                                    kind of meeting in
                                                    my company too.<br>
                                                    On next March 31st
                                                    my company's first
                                                    Open Space meeting
                                                    will take place and
                                                    I'm going to be the
                                                    facilitator. wow!<br>
                                                    We'll be around 100
                                                    people and the theme
                                                    is "how could we
                                                    make our company a
                                                    better place to
                                                    work?"<br>
                                                    If any of you have a
                                                    suggestion to share
                                                    with me, something
                                                    that you would have
                                                    been happy to
                                                    receive before your
                                                    first time as an OS
                                                    facilitator, I think
                                                    it would be really a
                                                    gift for me.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    thanks all<br>
                                                    Stefano</p>
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