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Let's see. Quick inventory:<br>
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<ul>
<li><i>Questions</i> tend to "open space". Invitations are
questions & end with a question mark.</li>
<li><i>Statements</i> tend to "close space". Mandates are
statements & end with a period.</li>
<li><i>Everything</i> real and genuine and authentic runs on human
engagement (aka "passion+responsibility"). </li>
<li><i>Invitations</i> tend to increase levels of engagement. </li>
<li><i>Mandates</i> tend to increase levels of DIS engagement.</li>
<li><i>Open Space</i> results in higher levels of engagement.</li>
<li><i>Intentions</i> equal Results.</li>
</ul>
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Therefore:<br>
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<ul>
<li>The intention of doing a genuine Open Space is to increase
engagement.</li>
<li>The intent of a genuine mandate is increase DIS engagement</li>
</ul>
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Seems simple enough.<br>
<br>
And this is why I routinely walk away from "opportunities" to help
bring Agile to organizations, when formally authorized leadership
opts-out of opening space. <br>
<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/6/14 1:04 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christine
said – “Are we "working too hard" when we try to work
differently ?Do you believe that Zappos would have end up
anyway with same performance without the hard work of
implementing Holacracy ? Anyway, we will never know...”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
have no problem working differently, in fact at the moment I
don’t think we are working differently enough. As I see it,
the names change, the processes change, but the fundamental
presuppositions remain unchanged. Whether the issue is
implementing Holarchy or a Dictatorship, the premise is that
organization is something we do and we control. Doubtless
Holarchy is more humane than a Dictatorship, but I think
they both come from the same place, the same fundamental
premise – that organization (my organization, your
organization) is our creature. We design it, we create it,
we control it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Real
difference comes with a change in premises, I think.
Speaking just for myself, I find this to be a self
organizing world, beginning, middle, and end. Even those
organizations we think we organized end of being self
organizing the moment we push the start button. So really
working differently, and I think much smarter, efficiently,
effectively, with greater joy and less effort, would start
from that basic point: All the world is self organizing. We
don’t create it, we don’t control it, but we can live in it
productively. We can learn to enhance our ability for such
living, and we can assist others to do the same. And how
might that work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
first step is to watch and appreciate what is happening all
by itself before we even think about doing anything. And
Open Space can be our guide. As we see all the time in Open
Space, organization starts when passion and responsibility
intersect around an issue or opportunity. If it is exciting,
people will come, and the next thing you know you have a
group of “two or more gathered together to do something” –
which would be my definition of organization. The process
and structure is totally emergent with no help needed.
Happens all by itself. And as we have learned, intervention
is not only not necessary, it actually mucks up the emergent
process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
may happen that this nascent organization will die (When
it’s over it’s over) or it may continue and grow (Whoever
comes is the right people. Whatever happens is the only
thing that could have.) Given a little time it could become
the next Intel, Microsoft, Facebook...!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Obviously
the distance between a small nexus of passion and
responsibility and a giant corporation is considerable – but
even the giants started as “two or more gathered together”
and I don’t think the rules change along the way. It is all
fractal, and just as an OS for 10 works just like one for
2000 so also in the world at large (larger), I think. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And
what can we do along the journey? First, appreciate what’s
happening. Second, keep the space open. Third, offer our
passion and responsibility wherever we care to – which can
provide new energy for growth, new inspiration, new ideas.
That is just for “openers” and for more I refer you to Part
II of “Wave Rider,” “The Wave Rider’s Guide to the Future.”
I don’t pretend that is the whole story, but it could be a
useful place to start – and you can write the rest. </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And
then to your comment: “My feeling is also that people tend
to prefer when they understand how things work (otherwise
they get anxious), and in this regard self-organization may
make things uneasy. Who can tell how it works ?” Christine,
you are 100% CORRECT! Which creates a major problem for all
7 ½ billion of us on Planet Earth which resides in a tiny
corner of a second rate solar system, lost in a relatively
minor galaxy...one of billions and billions. It also seems
that something like 96% of everything is unknown and
unknowable (Dark Energy and Dark matter) – and the remaining
4% (what we can theoretically see) is more than a little
foggy when it comes to our capacity for understanding. The
fact that all of it, so far as we can understand, </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
is self organizing is icing on the cake called “Uneasy”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But
we may have found a way out...just fabricate a version of
reality we can understand and control. That should do it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>christine koehler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Harrison, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe I am beginning to get it. Maybe
not. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You say self-organization is already
there, no matter what we do or dont do. ok. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe the question is not about
self-organisation but about high performance : Hsieh,
Gore, Semler's visions only say something about how they
see high performance flow from/in/thru the system. Might
be an attempt to control it, by naming it Holacracy, or
even self organization ? However, from what they say,
their way of controling it might end up with higher levels
of performance than "command and control"systems. Using
Open Space creates conditions for high performance. But
then, should we just stop doing deciding and trying things
because no matter what we do the system will self-organize
?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Are we
"working too hard" when we try to work differently ?Do you
believe that Zappos would have end up anyway with same
performance withoug the hard work of implementing
Holacracy ? Anyway, we will never know...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">My feeling
is also that people tend to prefer when they understand
how things work (otherwise they get anxious), and in this
regard self-organization may make things uneasy. Who can
tell how it works ? If you take decision making for
instance, and if I take Wosonos as an example, sometimes
the decision making process for the location on the next
one is so obvious to everybody who go through it that
everything seems easy and clear. But sometimes , and for
reasons that are quite unclear to me, it seems that the
some people are not happy and the decision maling process
is questioned. Of course this is true with any decision
making process, maybe it's just that some processes are
easier to describe. Our brain needs to be able to simplify
complex processes in order to be comfortable with it. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Right now I am experiencing something
interesting : for a management seminar, a few groups
emerged from what I could call a very simplistic "law of 2
feet" decision making process. ie there was offered
opportunity for 5 groups to emerge, and so it went. (why 5
? well, that was completely arbitrary. probably because
timing was short and that there were only very short time
to get feedbacks fro the groupn as feedback was required)
. After the seminar where people are asked to work
further on those topics. Management decided not to let
leaders of those groups use the law of 2 feets but members
could. (I agree this is a strange rule). What is happening
is that they are questioning the decision making process :
how do we know those topics are the most important ones ?
is this group the best to work on such particular topic ?
How can I feel legitimate in being the leader of this
group as it is not my dayjob ? etc.. Would you say that
they are working too hard ? That the system will take care
of itself and anyway self-organize, no matter what we do
?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Christine <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:27 PM,
Harrison Owen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christine
... “I find very interesting this tension between
personal vision (think about Gore for instance or
Semler and Semco) and self-organization. looks very
complex and human to me ;)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">but
still wondering how self-organization fits within
this kind of frame.” </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
is really easy. Self Organization is already there,
but the poor folks at Zappo think they did it!
Surprise – what they really did was complicate
something that could have happened very easily by
itself. Ah! But we humans have to feel we are in
control. Even when we say we aren’t and don’t care
to be. The Trojan Horse rides again. Zappo’d as it
were.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">189
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Camden,
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>christine koehler<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology
email list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Open Space and
Holacracy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">This
reminds me of a very short conversation I
had with a participant of the Practice of
Peace seminar last January. He had left
Zappos not so long ago. We exchanged a few
words about the ambiguity of Tony Hsieh
mandating Zappos to become holacratic,
because it was his own personal vision.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
find very interesting this tension between
personal vision (think about Gore for
instance or Semler and Semco) and
self-organization. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">looks
very complex and human to me ;)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">but
stlll wondering how self-organization fits
within this kind of frame.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Christine
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Harrison Owen
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christine,
Zappo Holarchs “rolled out” according to
the following... Sounds like sort of a
mandate to me. ho</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
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href="http://qz.com/161210/zappos-is-going-holacratic-no-job-titles-no-managers-no-hierarchy"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Potomac,
MD 20854</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">189
Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine
Whitney Sanchez<br>
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12:46 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> World wide Open Space
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Open
Space and Holacracy<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Great
post, Daniel. Our company worked with
Tony Hseigh’s Downtown Las Vegas
Project last year and found the whole
thing to be very self-organizing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I’m
surprised that Zappos is imposing
any kind of mandate - where did you
discover this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Namasté,<br>
<br>
Christine <br>
<br>
Christine Whitney
Sanchez, Partner<br>
Innovation Partners
International<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Mar 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Dan
Mezick <<a
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href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net"
target="_blank">dan@newtechusa.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">An
invitation arouses
curiousity, but a mandate
dries up <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">the
bones... Ancient Proverb<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
Mandate of Holacracy at
Zappos:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:36 AM,
"Harrison Owen" <<a
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href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Wikipedia
(as usual) has everything
you wanted to know... go to
--<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy</a>
<br>
<br>
I can certainly imagine Open
Space playing a role in
Holacracies, and in<br>
fact the "governance" in a
Open Space could certainly
be described as<br>
"Holacratic" -- which is to
say "ruling power" is
totally distributed<br>
amongst the participants.
But there is a real
difference. Holacracy in
Open<br>
Space is totally an emergent
phenomenon. Nobody designed
it, nobody<br>
implements it -- it just
shows up all by itself.
Holacracy in places like<br>
Zappos is a designed
phenomenon. Doubtless it
works pretty well, but it
does<br>
seem to me that they may be
working a little too hard,
creating something<br>
that can and does happen all
by itself. I think.<br>
<br>
Harrison<br>
<br>
Harrison Owen<br>
7808 River Falls Dr.<br>
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On Behalf Of Kári Gunnarsson<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04,
2014 11:20 AM<br>
To: World wide Open Space
Technology email list<br>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Open
Space and Holacracy<br>
<br>
I heard that Holacracy is
somehow based upon the
principles of Open Space<br>
and uses Open space for its
implementation.<br>
<br>
On 4 March 2014 08:53, Rob
van der Eyden<br>
<<a
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target="_blank">robvandereyden@veranderarchitect.nl</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello
Kári,<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Interesting
question. How do you see
the link between Open
space and <o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Holacracy?<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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</blockquote>
<blockquote
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind
regards, Rob van der Eyden<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----<o:p></o:p></p>
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maandag 3 maart 2014 21:52<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Aan:
Open Space Forum<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Onderwerp:
[OSList] Open Space and
Holacracy<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">There
have been much talk about
the relationship of the
organizational <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">chart
and how Open Space
operates. Recent
compareson to me has been
to <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">link
the new self-organizing
authority and
decision-making system <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">called
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">see:
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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wonder if there are
stories on the use of Open
space to transform <o:p></o:p></p>
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traditional system to one
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happy to learn some of
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regard.<o:p></o:p></p>
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