<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The LawOf2Feet is always active, right?!?</div><div><br></div><div>Some (most) of the folks at work "virtually walk away" in their mind, every day, leaving only the body...to EMbody the state of: </div><div><br></div><div>dis engagement. </div><div><br></div><div>Disengagement =</div><div><br></div><div>Lack of Passion + </div><div>Lack of Responsibility</div><div><br></div><div>To create disengagement, make everything (especially your meetings) mandatory. </div><div><br></div><div>That will do it.</div><div><br></div><div>To create engagement, issue genuine invitations, and respectfully give folks enough time to think it over.</div><div><br></div><div>I see it over and over again, in the Agile space: mandated process change. "Mandated collaboration" if you will.</div><div><br></div><div>It's a surefire way to mess up something perfectly good!</div><div><br></div><div>The world is self-organizing; let's see what develops.</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel</div><div><br></div><div>But wait, there's more:</div><div><br></div><div>Mandated Collaboration Explained</div><div><span style="font-family: '.HelveticaNeueUI'; font-size: 15px; line-height: 19px; white-space: nowrap; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/mandated-agile-part2/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/mandated-agile-part2/</a></span><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:03 PM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Christine, Zappo Holarchs “rolled out” according to the following... Sounds like sort of a mandate to me. ho<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://qz.com/161210/zappos-is-going-holacratic-no-job-titles-no-managers-no-hierarchy">http://qz.com/161210/zappos-is-going-holacratic-no-job-titles-no-managers-no-hierarchy</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Camden, Maine 04843<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(summer) 207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="www.openspaceworld.com%20"><span style="color:blue">www.openspaceworld.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="www.ho-image.com%20"><span style="color:blue">www.ho-image.com</span></a> (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"><span style="color:blue">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Whitney Sanchez<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:46 PM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Open Space and Holacracy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Great post, Daniel. Our company worked with Tony Hseigh’s Downtown Las Vegas Project last year and found the whole thing to be very self-organizing. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I’m surprised that Zappos is imposing any kind of mandate - where did you discover this?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Namasté,<br><br>Christine <br><br>Christine Whitney Sanchez, Partner<br>Innovation Partners International<br>Phoenix, AZ, USA +1.480.759.0262<br><a href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">www.innovationpartners.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Dan Mezick <<a href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net">dan@newtechusa.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">An invitation arouses curiousity, but a mandate dries up <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the bones... Ancient Proverb<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:".HelveticaNeueUI","serif""><a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/</a></span><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:36 AM, "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Wikipedia (as usual) has everything you wanted to know... go to --<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy</a> <br><br>I can certainly imagine Open Space playing a role in Holacracies, and in<br>fact the "governance" in a Open Space could certainly be described as<br>"Holacratic" -- which is to say "ruling power" is totally distributed<br>amongst the participants. But there is a real difference. Holacracy in Open<br>Space is totally an emergent phenomenon. Nobody designed it, nobody<br>implements it -- it just shows up all by itself. Holacracy in places like<br>Zappos is a designed phenomenon. Doubtless it works pretty well, but it does<br>seem to me that they may be working a little too hard, creating something<br>that can and does happen all by itself. I think.<br><br>Harrison<br><br>Harrison Owen<br>7808 River Falls Dr.<br>Potomac, MD 20854<br>USA<br><br>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<br>Camden, Maine 04843<br><br>Phone 301-365-2093<br>(summer) 207-763-3261<br><br><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/">www.openspaceworld.com</a> <br><a href="http://www.ho-image.com/">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)<br>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST<br>Go to:http://<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Kári Gunnarsson<br>Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:20 AM<br>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>Subject: Re: [OSList] Open Space and Holacracy<br><br>I heard that Holacracy is somehow based upon the principles of Open Space<br>and uses Open space for its implementation.<br><br>On 4 March 2014 08:53, Rob van der Eyden<br><<a href="mailto:robvandereyden@veranderarchitect.nl">robvandereyden@veranderarchitect.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hello Kári,<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Interesting question. How do you see the link between Open space and <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Holacracy?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards, Rob van der Eyden<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Van: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] Namens Kári Gunnarsson<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Verzonden: maandag 3 maart 2014 21:52<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Aan: Open Space Forum<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Onderwerp: [OSList] Open Space and Holacracy<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">There have been much talk about the relationship of the organizational <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">chart and how Open Space operates. Recent compareson to me has been to <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">link the new self-organizing authority and decision-making system <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">called Holacracy<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">see: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">I wonder if there are stories on the use of Open space to transform <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">more traditional system to one of Open Space based Holacracy? I would <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">be happy to learn some of your experiences in this regard.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Kári Gunnarsson<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">gsm: +354 8645189<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">OSList mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a> To unsubscribe <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>--<br>Kári Gunnarsson<br><a href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a><br>gsm: +354 8645189<br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a> To unsubscribe send an<br>email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>