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    Hi Suzanne,<br>
    <br>
    Thanks for your great and timely essay! I have 5 things to say about
    it.<br>
    <o:p></o:p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">1/ Self-organization does not SELL well. We
      must use a catchy slogan like "high performance" instead. We have
      to say "high performance" to company leaders, since they do not
      speak the language of self-organization and therefore do not care
      whatsoever about it. It means nothing to them. <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      We must  use MUCH less-evolved language when selling.<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      Think: "The way to efficiency is through the act of <big><b>self-organizing</b></big>.
      Proven methods like Open Space can help."<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">Say: "The way to efficiency is through the act
      of using proven <big><b>high-performance</b></big> methods. Open
      Space. can help."<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal">2/ Open Agile Adoption is a high-performance
      sell. It does not try to sell self-organization. It DOES
      self-organization. Explaining all the theory does not get the
      business. I therefore do not discuss self-org, passage-rites and
      liminality etc unless and until they ask. <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      3/ There is an opportunity to artfully sell Open Space by selling
      "high-performance Agile adoptions."  Open Space as a means to an
      end. I am using the phrase "rapid and lasting Agile adoption" and
      "high performance" interchangeably when talking to sponsors and it
      works. <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      4/ It's a huge leap to being Open Space mainstream in business,
      and reaching the larger goal is best done step by step. The
      obvious and open entry point for Open Space in typical orgs is
      Agile adoptions- ESPECIALLY the broken ones, and the landscape is
      littered with them.  The entry point for OST in most orgs is the
      Agile-adoption entry point. That's the crack where the light gets
      in. We enter HERE. And then, see what develops in the wider
      context....outstanding results are hard to deny. We get them. From
      that place we can engage formal leadership in a real conversation
      about SELF ORGANIZATION. <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      Once we have their ear!!<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      5/ Broken Agile adoptions have many causes; the root cause is some
      form of "an unwillingness to let go and go all the way." <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      Mandates kill engagement. Mandates are the reciprocal- the
      opposite- of the Law of 2 Feet. Once the people are TOLD what to
      do and FORCED to do Scrum or whatever, the effort is dead on
      arrival. Dead! Lifeless. When that goes on for a year of more,
      imagine the tremendous energy being built up. The difference of
      potential. The VOLTAGE. The folks show up disengaged...dead and
      lifeless...resentful....is the term "zombies" to harsh? I hope
      not! Now, imagine a genuine and authentic Open Space event with
      all issues about the Agile adoption ON THE TABLE. And a clear path
      OUT of the morass. With management on committed to act on
      proceedings. <br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      That unlocks and unshackles loads of latent energy. A broken Agile
      adoption is the PERFECT setup for introducing Open Space. The
      danger is that it will be implemented incompletely, without "all
      issues on the table" up front, and the commitment from leadership
      to act after the event. If that's what they ask for, I politely
      decline the opportunity to "serve" in that way. I tell them it is
      probably (is) NOT the time for me to be their coach. Maybe later;
      people (leaders) do after all change their minds. Keep inviting!<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      Now, to be clear: management is not going to come calling unless
      they are "out of aces" and the adoption is clearly a mess. Then
      they come looking for you, and make that call. It's a
      fantastically GREAT setup for Open Space: big huge important
      issue, loads of potential for conflict, and a time-for-action of
      yesterday. Perfect !<br>
    </p>
    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
      Daniel<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.DanielMezick.com">www.DanielMezick.com</a><br>
      203 915 7248<br>
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    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/14 11:24 PM, Suzanne Daigle
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAJh+fLDyXD-Skzw0xQjZQVaba-SWcA-o_6uQeTG5qrzBWNAoVA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div><b>So what do you think about all of that?</b>... asks
          Harrison at the end of his original post.<br>
          <br>
          A loaded question to say the least.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Well I've been thinking about it....A LOT.  Though really,
          there's no surprise in this plain talk--probably more plain
          talk than I've ever seen on this subject. <br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Plain talk about management and leadership, whether the
          definition of it, our view of it, our pursuit of it, or our
          conversations around it, which leads me to think about: <br>
          <br>
          "When it really comes down to it, what is it that we are
          really promising management and leadership when they ask us
          about Open Space? What is it that they are really asking of
          us? What reassurances are they looking for? What is the
          implied promise that we are giving? Why is it so hard to find
          the right words to engage in a meaningful dialogue around what
          we are really inviting?"<br>
          <br>
          Under the surface of it all, we know what management and
          leadership are asking for. We know they want that fix, the
          predictability, the reassurance of outcome, of high
          performance, of results and probably a return to the way
          things were or as they remember them to be...but was it really
          ever that way? And could it ever be that way again?<br>
          <br>
          We all know that what the clients are asking for is not
          possible. How can we ever predict or plan the complex future
          we are living into with any certainty at all? It would seem
          that we have ample evidence of the futility of even attempting
          to do so or worse believing that we can. And yet we do, over
          and over again. Working harder and harder, searching for that
          next best model or system or structure or approach, spending
          hours and hours learning more and more, planning, predicting
          and forecasting and then later analyzing the gaps where we did
          not meet plan and spending more and more hours, explaining the
          variances. We massage our words, we try to describe in ways
          that will seem familiar and similar to the existing models to
          entice and reassure. By falling in the trap of promises, are
          we not also colluding with what we know to be true...that
          control doesn't work no more than predictability does. <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>And as we busily work on this, life is passing us by. <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Harrison in an earlier post said: <br>
          <br>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
              style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">"For the last several years I
              have been asking for, pleading
              for, begging for an extended and deep conversation which
              starts with the
              premise that this is a self organizing world, beginning,
              middle and end. Living
              fully and productively in such a world requires that we
              think some new, and
              (some would say) radical and heretical thoughts about
              management, leadership,
              the nature of organization, power...and much more. Good
              old OST gives us a good
              experimental base, but that is just the beginning. I
              think. And while some might
              see OST as a useful “tool” for the enhancement of
              organizations as we know
              them, in my view OST is a wonderful Trojan Horse, which,
              in a not so subtle
              manner, blows those understandings and ways of working
              quite out of the water.
              It clears some space for the new conversations to take
              place, while
              simultaneously offering some useful contributions to the
              content of those
              conversations."</span></p>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>I too year for these conversations...with the clients and
          others. What's more, we know that Open Space gives us the
          feeling and experience that something much bigger and better
          is right there under the surface. The SHIFT that people often
          experience is life-changing or could be if individuals trusted
          their experience and did not try so hard to talk themselves
          out of what felt so natural... simply because it does not
          match up with the good old predictability models of Leadership
          and Management. <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>It was this experience that ignited my passion and my
          courage to jump into life. I wonder now if it is not time to
          speak more clearly, more forthrightly about self-organizing,
          about one less thing to do, about chaos and order. <br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>As Harrison yearns for extended and deep conversations on
          self-organizing, I yearn for more and more Open Space and <b>more
            plain talk</b> along the lines of "Folks, let's face it;
          it's just not working. Time to try something new or rather
          time to go back to something that's been lying there right
          under our nose all these billion years. It's everywhere, in
          nature, in our living systems: it's called self-organizing.
          It's our best teacher and the one that has withstood the test
          of time".<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Along with the plain talk and inviting, I also want to wear
          my passion on my sleeve without holding back. I want to show
          how much I yearn for work and life to be more joyful, more fun
          and more productive because people are doing "one less thing
          of the stuff that is a waste to do" and "many more things that
          they enjoy and believe in".  <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>I also see others wearing their heart on their sleeves,
          speaking clearly and with great conviction what they want to
          see in the world of work. <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Harrison you said: 
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
              style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><span style="">I think the
                bottom line
                may come down to: Move slowly with empathy, and be
                prepared to wait.</span> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><br>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">I'll admit
            that I can't buy into that. I feel too much urgency. Life
            may prove me wrong, doors may slam shut but I'm willing to
            take that chance. <br>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
              style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><br>
          </p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">But what I can
            buy into is this:</p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span style=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><font>"At
                  one level I will do the Open Space because I know that
                  it will enable
                  people to be more comfortable, powerful, sure of
                  themselves. That’s the easy
                  part. But at another level I will do the Open Space in
                  order to introduce
                  anomaly... one more nudge towards Paradigm Shift."</font> 
              </span></span><b style=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>
              </span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><br>
            <b style=""><span
style="font-size:11pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font><span
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
                  style="line-height:115%">And
                  perhaps if enough of us help nudge it towards that
                  paradigm shift, we will
                  start a real tipping point. </span></span></font></p>
          <font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
            </span></font>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font><span
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
                  style="line-height:115%"> </span></span></font></p>
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            </span></font>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><font><span
                style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
                  style="line-height:115%">Suzanne</span></span></font></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal"><span
              style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span><b style=""><span
                style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New
                Roman","serif""></span></b></p>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM, David
          Osborne <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dosborne@change-fusion.com" target="_blank">dosborne@change-fusion.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div>
              <div dir="ltr"> Many thanks Harrison...very helpful. <span
                  class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                    <div> <br>
                    </div>
                    <div> David </div>
                  </font></span></div>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <div class="gmail_extra"> <br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote"> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at
                      12:09 PM, Harrison Owen <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
                          target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span>
                      wrote: <br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David,
                                Listen to your words...</span> “<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">we're
                                exploring the question of how can we
                                have some structure and boundaries and
                                 yet provide space for
                                self-organization. It's hard to find
                                models that enable both.” </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                                hate to say it, and you won’t be
                                surprised, but I think you are working
                                much too hard. Sounds to me suspiciously
                                like a variant of “organizing a self
                                organizing system.” Especially that part
                                about “find(ing) models.” The systems
                                you are contemplating (your business and
                                the Association) are their own best
                                models. Nothing else will even come
                                close because they are unique. And if
                                self organization is anything like I
                                think it is, one of its major activities
                                is the creation of “structures and
                                boundaries.” That, by definition, is
                                what self organizing systems do, along
                                with a few other things. So the key
                                activity for me would be to stop looking
                                for models, and start paying careful
                                attention to how your two self
                                organizing systems naturally express
                                themselves in structure and form. </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Initially
                                your task will be complicated by all
                                those “other” structures and forms that
                                have been laid on, arbitrarily I would
                                say, just because it seemed like a good
                                idea at the time – in accord with the
                                latest “models,” or “accepted practice.”
                                After all, we think we all know what an
                                organization SHOULD look like.</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But
                                there is a way through the forest, I
                                think, which is actually the “design
                                principle” I employed in the development
                                of Open Space Technology. You’ve heard
                                it before. <b>Think of one more thing
                                  NOT to do</b>. Just keep striping away
                                those forms and procedures that you
                                thought to be essential for your
                                organizations’ function. Don’t try to do
                                it all at once, and start with what I
                                might call the low hanging fruit. Those
                                things that just get done, even though
                                nobody can remember why. </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Then
                                notice what happens. If something comes
                                back, that is pretty good evidence that
                                it was a natural form or structure, and
                                your systems, in their own wisdom, felt
                                the need. On the other hand, if it stays
                                gone, just say bye, bye, enjoy the new
                                space, and get on with your business. </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
                                is true, of course that some structures
                                and forms are required by external
                                authorities: Taxes, annual reports, and
                                the like. In those situations, I have
                                found it helpful to ask, “What is the
                                minimal level of form and structure
                                required to get the job done?” For some
                                reason, people seem to make the simplest
                                things unendingly complicated. <i>In
                                  extremis</i> there is a presumption
                                that if it is simple, it can’t be any
                                good. I’ve noticed this on more than one
                                occasion with the public perception of
                                OST, especially among those who have
                                never been involved. I suppose this has
                                something to do with the Expert Syndrome
                                – if you make it complicated enough you
                                will surely require the services of an
                                Expert to help you through. For a fee of
                                course. And to be honest, we in the OS
                                community sometimes seem to be guilty of
                                the same thing. </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
                                there are some suggestions to get
                                started. If you want more, and probably
                                more than you want – you might take a
                                look at Part II of <i>Wave Rider</i>,
                                “A Wave Rider’s Guide to the Future.”
                                And for a slightly different slant see
                                Part IV of the <i>Power of Spirit,</i>
                                “The Care and Feeding of the Interactive
                                Organization.” And just to be clear, an
                                Interactive Organization is my term for
                                a conscious, self organizing system. </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
                              </span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">PS
                                – And for the record, all of the above
                                are by yours truly and available from
                                Amazon.com and the publisher,
                                Berrett-Koehler.</span></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison
                                  Owen</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                                  River Falls Dr.</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                                  MD 20854</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">USA</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">189
                                  Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Camden,
                                  Maine 04843</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Phone
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
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                                    [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
                                      target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Osborne<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 04,
                                    2014 6:57 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> World wide Open Space
                                    Technology email list<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList]
                                    Management and Organization</span></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">  </p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Harrison, </p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I had to laugh at
                                  my own words as I re-read them.. <i>."support
                                    leaders in adopting approaches that
                                    move toward greater and greater
                                    levels of self-organization."    </i>The
                                  system of course is self-organizing
                                  all the time !!!  </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Opening space
                                  enables the system it to move closer
                                  and closer to high performance versus
                                  stuckness, stagnation, decline and
                                  death.  If I restate what I was trying
                                  to express, I think we can Open Space
                                  in big ways as an OS does and/or in
                                  small ways through the openness in
                                  leadership approaches that provide
                                  more space for passion, creativity,
                                  personal responsibility etc. This is
                                  working at the micro-level though
                                  versus the full paradigm shift you
                                  describe. I agree with your
                                  description whole-heartedly. </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">You raise for me
                                  very pragmatic questions. Both in our
                                  small company, ChangeFusion, and in a
                                  global membership organization I'm
                                  involved in we're exploring the
                                  question of how can we have some
                                  structure and boundaries and  yet
                                  provide space for self-organization.
                                  it's hard to find models that enable
                                  both. </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to hear if
                                  others have suggestions of examples. </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">David </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 4, 2014
                                  at 2:54 PM, Harrison Owen <<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
                                    target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
                                  wrote: </p>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hello
                                        David O. and David S. I’ve
                                        re-titled to give the thread a
                                        new name if only because I think
                                        it is headed in some new
                                        directions with hopefully a long
                                        and useful discussion in
                                        prospect. </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
                                        discussion may get a little
                                        difficult as we attempt to
                                        define and understand the words
                                        we are using, “Management,” for
                                        example. I had in mind the more
                                        common garden variety of
                                        Management’s role in
                                        organizations. As Wikipedia
                                        (that source of all useful
                                        information) notes, “Despite the
                                        move toward workplace democracy,
                                        command-and-control organization
                                        structures remain commonplace
                                        as <i>de facto</i> organization
                                        structure.” (Wikipedia). Back in
                                        the old days a common definition
                                        of a good manager was one who,
                                        “Makes the plan, manages to the
                                        plan, and meets the plan.” And
                                        we all know how that was
                                        supposed to be done. Single
                                        word: Control. Lots of Command
                                        and Control.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David
                                        has moved in new, interesting
                                        and effective directions saying,
                                        “What I have found is that as
                                        I'm able to share the conditions
                                        that support self-organization
                                        and how they can be integrated
                                        into individuals leadership
                                        approach that the leaders move
                                        toward approaches that support
                                        greater and greater
                                        self-organization.”</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                                        applaud the effort, but it seems
                                        to me it may be rather a half
                                        step. If I hear David’s words
                                        correctly, the fundamental
                                        understanding of “organization”
                                        remains unchanged (predesigned
                                        structure and controls with
                                        Leaders/Managers in charge) and
                                        the new effort is to enable
                                        “leaders (to) move toward
                                        approaches that support greater
                                        and greater self-organization.”
                                        Tactically I can certainly
                                        understand the approach, but
                                        what if organization is
                                        fundamentally, essentially, in
                                        totality – Self Organizing? If
                                        that is the situation, “greater
                                        and greater self organization”
                                        makes little sense for a very
                                        simple reason. It is all self
                                        organizing to begin with! But I
                                        guess that is just splitting
                                        hairs, and for sure the heart is
                                        moving in the right direction.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
                                        revolutionary in me (and yes
                                        there is some of that </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">)
                                        would dearly love to shake the
                                        organizational world by the
                                        scruff of the neck saying
                                        something like, Move on, Wake
                                        up! You just can’t get there
                                        from here. And for a certainty,
                                        such an approach would have no
                                        chance of success. There needs
                                        to be a change in view, I am
                                        sure -- but forced change, were
                                        it even possible, falls back on
                                        the old way which wasn’t
                                        effective then and won’t work
                                        now. And there is another way
                                        which unfortunately requires
                                        some patient waiting. But we may
                                        not have to wait that long.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
                                        is a very common lament -- that,
                                        “things just aren’t working.”
                                        What “things” and the nature of
                                        their dysfunction are often left
                                        unsaid, but the universal
                                        uneasiness is pretty clear. To
                                        date, the usual response has
                                        been to do more and more of what
                                        we’ve always done, but maybe
                                        with a different name (Quality
                                        Circles, Process Re-Engineering,
                                        Dialogue, maybe even AGILE when
                                        mandated etc.). The results have
                                        not been inspiring. Some would
                                        even include Open Space
                                        Technology as a new tool. But I
                                        don’t think that works either if
                                        the intent is to fix the old
                                        system.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As
                                        the lament continues, some
                                        strange things are happening.
                                        Every now and again something
                                        actually WORKS! And it works
                                        even when the plans are busted,
                                        the leadership is incompetent,
                                        the environment sour and
                                        threatening. Who knows how or
                                        why – but it worked. The Brits
                                        usually call this Muddling
                                        Through, which is what happens
                                        when everything goes a different
                                        way than it was supposed to –
                                        but it all turns out fine. Phew!</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There
                                        is another name for this strange
                                        phenomenon. Anomaly. Anomaly
                                        literally means being outside
                                        the law (lawless) from the Greek
                                        <i>a</i> (without) <i>nomos</i>
                                        (law).  Anomalies cause one to
                                        scratch the head in wonder...How
                                        on earth could THAT happen? Most
                                        often, we just pass them by with
                                        a dismissive, “weird!” I think
                                        that is a mistake.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Peter
                                        Vaill, an old friend and
                                        colleague, had a knack for
                                        seriously noticing anomalies. He
                                        observed that some organizations
                                        performed at levels of
                                        excellence that definitely blew
                                        away the competition. He called
                                        them High Performing Systems.
                                        The problem was, these systems
                                        broke all the rules of how
                                        organizations were supposed to
                                        work. As a Professor of
                                        Management, Peter could be
                                        accused of a flawed effort
                                        because instead of attempting to
                                        analyze how they worked, Peter
                                        contented himself with a
                                        delightful description of what
                                        they did, which he captured in a
                                        short paper (1977<i>), The
                                          Behavioral Characteristics of
                                          High Performing Systems</i>. I
                                        say delightful because he wrote
                                        in a totally colloquial fashion,
                                        and definitely not in the style
                                        of Academe, even though he was
                                        the (then) Dean of the Business
                                        School at George Washington
                                        University.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Writing
                                        almost 10 years before Open
                                        Space Technology, Peter seems
                                        prescient, for his “Behavioral
                                        Characteristics” are a perfect
                                        description of the common
                                        behavior at every Open Space I
                                        have ever seen. Taking a tall
                                        leap in logic, I have argued
                                        (Wave Rider) that the link
                                        between Peter’s High Performing
                                        Systems, and what we have
                                        experienced in Open Space is the
                                        phenomenon of self organization.
                                        Or put somewhat differently,
                                        High Performing Systems are well
                                        functioning self organizing
                                        systems. And in function and
                                        effect they are definitely
                                        anomalous for according to the
                                        accepted wisdom, they simply
                                        could not happen or do what they
                                        do! </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">On
                                        the subject of Anomaly and the
                                        importance of same, the work of
                                        Thomas Kuhn comes to mind.
                                        Author of, “The Structures of
                                        Scientific Revolutions,” Kuhn
                                        gave us that wonderful concept,
                                        “paradigm,” as in Paradigm
                                        Shift. As an historian of
                                        Science, Kuhn describes how the
                                        scientific world grew in wisdom
                                        and stature, passing through
                                        several understandings of the
                                        nature of things, on the way to
                                        new (and presumably better)
                                        ones. That passage he called,
                                        Paradigm Shifts. According to
                                        his story, the scientific  or
                                        learned community held a certain
                                        view of reality for a period of
                                        time, which worked very well,
                                        and seemed to explain most, if
                                        not all, of the phenomenon of
                                        their experience. This view
                                        (paradigm) was taken as The
                                        Truth, and defended with
                                        ferocity. For example, everybody
                                        “knew” at one time that the
                                        Earth was the center of
                                        everything and those who
                                        disagreed were considered
                                        heretics, and often dispatched.
                                        Galileo, for instance. Then
                                        funny little anomalies began to
                                        show up as people observed the
                                        heavens. If the anomalies were
                                        not an illusion then Earth
                                        centeredness was false – which
                                        everybody knew must be wrong,
                                        insanity, or worse. But the
                                        anomalies refused to go away,
                                        which made people more and more
                                        uncomfortable, to say nothing of
                                        angry. Then one shinning day the
                                        view shifted. Same old heavens
                                        as before but seen with totally
                                        new eyes. Paradigm shift. Very
                                        powerful and never comfortable.
                                      </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This
                                        brief sojourn into the History
                                        of Science can be helpful to our
                                        present concerns, I think, for
                                        we are facing a very similar
                                        situation in our understanding
                                        of organizations, as well as
                                        management. The traditional
                                        understanding of organization,
                                        and therefore management, has
                                        been around for a long time. As
                                        with all paradigms, it is taken
                                        to be The Truth, and those who
                                        challenge will inevitably be
                                        subject to dismissal at the
                                        beginning, changing to
                                        discomfort, and perhaps ending
                                        with anger. The reason is very
                                        simple. The investments in this
                                        particular paradigm are
                                        enormous, and include ways of
                                        life, ways of making a living,
                                        and for some, life itself.
                                        Messing with all of that cannot
                                        be done lightly.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
                                        yet the anomalies persist. Some
                                        are quite subtle and are
                                        perceived only as a growing
                                        sense that “things are not
                                        working as we expected.”
                                        However, when the
                                        system/organization seems
                                        broken, it is clear that we must
                                        fix it and we think we know how.
                                        If the organizational process is
                                        screwy, then obviously we need
                                        Process Re-Engineering. But it
                                        didn’t work. We try harder and
                                        harder, doing variants of what
                                        we’ve always done, and
                                        (surprisingly) we get what we’ve
                                        always got. But hope springs
                                        eternal, and someday we will
                                        find The Fix. Or so it says in
                                        all the books. Maybe.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Other
                                        anomalies are not so subtle.
                                        Open Space Technology is such an
                                        anomaly. I believe it to be true
                                        that Open Space violates
                                        virtually all principles and
                                        practices of traditional
                                        organizational theory and
                                        management practice. To the
                                        extent that it (OS) works as we
                                        have experienced it working –
                                        much if not all of current
                                        practice is called into
                                        question. My view is doubtless
                                        biased, but some 20 years ago, a
                                        senior official from the
                                        American Society for Training
                                        and Development (pardon the
                                        repeat) seemingly had the same
                                        impression when he told me,
                                        after hearing what happened in
                                        Open Space, “Harrison, if what
                                        you say is true, then 99% of
                                        what we are currently do does
                                        not need to be done.” I would
                                        have been greatly relieved had I
                                        been able to argue with him. But
                                        I couldn’t. I can’t.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
                                        David(s) – where does that leave
                                        us? Discretion might dictate
                                        picking up our toys and going
                                        home. Others might suggest
                                        heading for the barricades.
                                        Personally I don’t think either
                                        possibility is very useful. I
                                        simply cannot deny what I have
                                        experienced in Open Space, nor
                                        can I resist the compulsion to
                                        share the experience in whatever
                                        way with whomsoever might show
                                        up. I think the bottom line may
                                        come down to: Move slowly with
                                        empathy, and be prepared to
                                        wait.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
                                        what would that mean for us and
                                        what we do...? At a practical
                                        level, it could mean something
                                        like this. Let’s suppose that
                                        the Management of a very
                                        traditional Organization shows
                                        up on our doorstep. They are
                                        concerned that organizational
                                        function is dismal, the people
                                        seem to dislike each other and
                                        what they are doing, and profits
                                        have disappeared. The request is
                                        simple: Help!  Somewhere they
                                        heard about Open Space and
                                        believe (hope) it could fix
                                        their system, or at least make a
                                        start.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
                                        sounds like a marvelous
                                        opportunity, and a natural
                                        response would be, YES! At least
                                        that would be my response. All
                                        the essential preconditions for
                                        OS seem to be in place (real
                                        issue, complexity, etc) – BUT
                                        ... There are some issues to
                                        consider. First, if by “fixing
                                        their system” the client means
                                        that the “traditional
                                        Organization” is going to be put
                                        back together as it once was,
                                        that is a real problem, I think.
                                        The reason is simple – the root
                                        of their problems is precisely
                                        the system (understanding of
                                        organization) they were working
                                        under. Make it even stronger.
                                        Were I to design a system that
                                        would maximize separation and
                                        alienation, minimize creativity
                                        and collaboration – I don’t
                                        think I could do any better than
                                        the system they were operating
                                        under. Fixing, or restoring that
                                        system would only compound their
                                        misery. Secondly, Doing an Open
                                        Space in that organization is
                                        quite likely to increase the
                                        general dissatisfaction with how
                                        things are done. As one senior
                                        executive from a very
                                        traditional organization said to
                                        me following an Open Space we
                                        did, “You have ruined me for
                                        work in this place. I am not
                                        sure whether to thank you or
                                        hate you.” Talk about being
                                        caught on the horns of a
                                        dilemma! If fully successful
                                        with my task (opening space), I
                                        will have failed the clients’
                                        primary expectations (fixing the
                                        system) and simultaneously
                                        raised the level employee
                                        dissatisfaction. </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All
                                        true, I think. And I would still
                                        do the Open Space, but my
                                        reasons could cause some
                                        problems unless very carefully
                                        explained, and that explanation
                                        itself is problematical. At one
                                        level I will do the Open Space
                                        because I know that it will
                                        enable people to be more
                                        comfortable, powerful, sure of
                                        themselves. That’s the easy
                                        part. But at another level I
                                        will do the Open Space in order
                                        to introduce anomaly... one more
                                        nudge towards Paradigm Shift.</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                                        know full well that I can’t
                                        shift paradigms for people. The
                                        same is true of Transformation,
                                        which has a lot to do with
                                        paradigm shift. Both will happen
                                        all by themselves...or not. But
                                        I can and will nudge when given
                                        the opportunity. After that it
                                        is all about waiting...</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
                                        what do you think about all
                                        that?</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison
                                          Owen</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                                          River Falls Dr.</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                                          MD 20854</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">USA</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">189
                                          Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Camden,
                                          Maine 04843</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Phone
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="tel:301-365-2093"
                                            target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(summer) 
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="tel:207-763-3261"
                                            target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20"
                                          target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">www.openspaceworld.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
                                        </span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.ho-image.com%20"
                                          target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">www.ho-image.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">
                                          (Personal Website)</span></p>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                          style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">To
                                          subscribe, unsubscribe, change
                                          your options, view the
                                          archives of OSLIST Go to:</span><a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"
                                          target="_blank"><span
                                            style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
                                              target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
                                            [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
                                              target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
                                            Osborne<br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> Monday,
                                            February 03, 2014 9:47 AM<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> World wide Open
                                            Space Technology email list<br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList]
                                            Trust</span></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal">I'm not sure
                                        I agree OS fails as a management
                                        tool.....Self-Organization has
                                        become the lens I look at all my
                                        work as an individual who
                                        supports groups and
                                        organizations in change and in
                                        my leadership and management
                                        development work. It's not an
                                        either / or for me os works or
                                        doesn't work as a management
                                        tool.  </p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Leadership
                                          is simply supporting an
                                          organization in moving toward
                                          its goals. The invitation in
                                          OS is the goal or issue that
                                          people care about. What I have
                                          found is that as I'm able to
                                          share the conditions that
                                          support self-organization and
                                          how they can be integrated
                                          into individuals leadership
                                          approach that the leaders move
                                          toward approaches that support
                                          greater and greater
                                          self-organization. This is not
                                          top-down, traditional
                                          leadership or management. As
                                          you propose in Wave-Rider
                                          Harrison, I believe the
                                          principles of OS /
                                          self-organization can be
                                          integrated as a leadership
                                          approach with great results. </p>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">David </p>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">  </p>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb
                                          3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Harrison
                                          Owen <<a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
                                            target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
                                          wrote: </p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David
                                                – I would totally agree
                                                that OS</span> “<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">utterly
                                                fails as a management
                                                tool.” Then again I
                                                think that OS shares
                                                this fate/condition with
                                                all other “management
                                                tools,” at least as I
                                                understand “management”
                                                and “tool” in the
                                                context of enabling
                                                effective human
                                                performance. And thereby
                                                hang the beginning of a
                                                long and useful
                                                discussion, I think.</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">ho</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison
                                                Owen</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                                                River Falls Dr.</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                                                MD 20854</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">USA</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">189
                                                Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Camden,
                                                Maine 04843</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Phone
                                                <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:301-365-2093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(summer) 
                                                <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:207-763-3261" target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a>
                                              </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ho-image.com%20" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a>
                                                (Personal Website)</span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                                style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">To
                                                subscribe, unsubscribe,
                                                change your options,
                                                view the archives of
                                                OSLIST Go to:<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"
                                                  target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                            <div
                                              style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                              0in 0in">
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                                  <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
                                                  [mailto:<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
                                                  stevenson<br>
                                                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday,
                                                  February 03, 2014 1:51
                                                  AM<br>
                                                  <b>To:</b> World wide
                                                  Open Space Technology
                                                  email list<br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                                  [OSList] Trust</span></p>
                                            </div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> Ho
                                              indeed Harrison! OpenSpace
                                              opens space for freedom of
                                              spirit and heart, choice
                                              and the weaving of our
                                              fates and destinies with
                                              that of our world, it does
                                              not achieve complience and
                                              so, at least to the extent
                                              that people are to be
                                              managed...</p>
                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                Saturday, February 1,
                                                2014, Harrison Owen <<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
                                                wrote:</p>
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Brendan
                                                      said: “And in my
                                                      view , all
                                                      germinating from
                                                      that initial
                                                      transfer of trust
                                                      between mentor and
                                                      sponsor” Right on!
                                                      I don’t think it
                                                      makes a bit of
                                                      difference how
                                                      elegantly one
                                                      “does” the Open
                                                      Space. It is
                                                      really all about
                                                      TRUST. When I said
                                                      that anybody with
                                                      a good heart and
                                                      good mind can “do
                                                      it,” that is just
                                                      a long winded way
                                                      of saying what
                                                      I’ve always found
                                                      to be true.
                                                      Expertise is
                                                      interesting.
                                                      Integrity and
                                                      Trust are
                                                      essential. A new
                                                      comer to the OS
                                                      world, opening
                                                      space for the very
                                                      first time,
                                                      muffing some
                                                      lines, and
                                                      forgetting others
                                                      – can do every bit
                                                      as well as a 20
                                                      year veteran. The
                                                      coin of the realm
                                                      is Integrity,
                                                      authenticity,
                                                      trust. But none of
                                                      that should be
                                                      news, for that
                                                      trio is the
                                                      bedrock of all
                                                      positive human
                                                      encounter, I
                                                      think. Which may
                                                      just be another
                                                      way of pointing
                                                      out that OS is not
                                                      some special
                                                      process we do, it
                                                      is just life lived
                                                      well. Or
                                                      something.</span></p>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">ho</span></p>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison
                                                        Owen</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808
                                                        River Falls Dr.</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Potomac,
                                                        MD 20854</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">USA</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">189
                                                        Beaucaire Ave.
                                                        (summer)</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Camden,
                                                        Maine 04843</span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Phone
                                                        <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:301-365-2093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">(summer) 
                                                        <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:207-763-3261" target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20"
                                                          target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a>
                                                      </span></p>
                                                    <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ho-image.com%20" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a>
                                                        (Personal
                                                        Website)</span></p>
                                                    <p> <span
                                                        style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1f497d">To
                                                        subscribe,
                                                        unsubscribe,
                                                        change your
                                                        options, view
                                                        the archives of
                                                        OSLIST Go to:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"
target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span></p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="border:none;border-top:solid
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                                                      <p><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
                                                          [<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Brendan
                                                          McKeague<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Saturday,
                                                          February 01,
                                                          2014 12:57 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b>
                                                          World wide
                                                          Open Space
                                                          Technology
                                                          email list<br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re: [OSList]
                                                          Sponsor
                                                          PreWork
                                                          Conversation
                                                          (long)</span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <p> </p>
                                                  <p>A very interesting
                                                    question Chuni Li...</p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>The sponsor was
                                                      being mentored by
                                                      one of my
                                                      colleagues in our
                                                      local Open Space
                                                      community of
                                                      practice (Wave
                                                      Riders) who
                                                      suggested to him
                                                      that OS was the
                                                      right method/model
                                                      for the task at
                                                      hand.  As his
                                                      coach (the formal
                                                      role as perceived
                                                      by the
                                                      organisation), my
                                                      colleague
                                                      encouraged the
                                                      sponsor to get in
                                                      touch with me to
                                                      avoid any
                                                      perceived conflict
                                                      of interest. The
                                                      sponsor researched
                                                      OS for himself
                                                      first and then
                                                      engaged me to
                                                      provide the
                                                      specialist
                                                      knowledge....Harrison
                                                      often says that
                                                      anyone with a good
                                                      heart and head can
                                                      open space - and I
                                                      agree - while at
                                                      the same time, I
                                                      acknowledge that
                                                      'Open Space
                                                      wisdom' is often
                                                      helpful, if not
                                                      necessary, in
                                                      situations of
                                                      increased
                                                      complexity and
                                                      potential
                                                      conflict. </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>After his initial
                                                      attraction to OS
                                                      in theory, and as
                                                      part of his
                                                      research, the
                                                      sponsor then ran a
                                                      mini Open Space
                                                      within his own
                                                      jurisdiction to
                                                      see how it worked
                                                      in reality - he
                                                      wished to speak
                                                      from his lived
                                                      experience when
                                                      engaging with his
                                                      higher-uppers.  He
                                                      also watched a few
                                                      of the growing
                                                      library of YouTube
                                                      clips that are so
                                                      wonderful for
                                                      educating
                                                      potential
                                                      sponsors.  </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>Now totally
                                                      convinced, the
                                                      transfer of trust
                                                      was complete at
                                                      various
                                                      levels....trusting
                                                      the process (OST
                                                      works) AND
                                                      trusting the
                                                      facilitator (who
                                                      was aligned with
                                                      the essence of OST
                                                      - i.e living in
                                                      it) AND trusting
                                                      that both
                                                      facilitator and
                                                      process were
                                                      'fit-for-purpose'
                                                      in this context. </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>And in my view ,
                                                      all germinating
                                                      from that initial
                                                      transfer of trust
                                                      between mentor and
                                                      sponsor</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>Hope this story
                                                      helps </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p>Cheers Brendan</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          31/01/2014, at
                                                          1:10 PM, <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chunili2000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chunili2000@yahoo.com</a>
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                        <p
                                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thank
                                                          you Brendan
                                                          for taking the
                                                          time to
                                                          organize and
                                                          share this
                                                          information -
                                                          so precious
                                                          and such a
                                                          generous gift!</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">I
                                                          am curious
                                                          about the
                                                          sponsor who
                                                          "put his neck
                                                          out" to make
                                                          the event
                                                          happen.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Had
                                                          he experienced
                                                          OST before?
                                                          Did you have
                                                          to "convince"
                                                          him? What made
                                                          him willing to
                                                          "jump through
                                                          the hoops?"
                                                          Was it the OST
                                                          process or was
                                                          it you that he
                                                          trusted?</span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Chuni
                                                          Li</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">New
                                                          Jersey</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""> 
                                                          </span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">
                                                          Brendan Mc</span></p>
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