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   I'm not sure I agree OS fails as a management tool.....Self-Organization has become the lens I look at all my work as an individual who supports groups and organizations in change and in my leadership and management development work. It's not an either / or for me os works or doesn't work as a management tool. 
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    Leadership is simply supporting an organization in moving toward it's goals. The invitation in OS is the goal or issue that people care about. What I have found is that as I'm able to share the conditions that support self-organization and how they can be integrated into individuals leadership approach that the leaders move toward approaches that support greater and greater self-organization. This is not top-down, traditional leadership or management. As you propose in Wave-Rider Harrison, I believe the principles of OS / self-organization can be integrated as a leadership approach with great results.
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    On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Harrison Owen 
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       <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David &#x2013; I would totally agree that OS</span> &#x201c;<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">utterly fails as a management tool.&#x201d; Then again I think that OS shares this fate/condition with all other &#x201c;management tools,&#x201d; at least as I understand &#x201c;management&#x201d; and &#x201c;tool&#x201d; in the context of enabling effective human performance. And thereby hang the beginning of a long and useful discussion, I think.<u></u><u></u></span></p> 
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David stevenson<br /> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 03, 2014 1:51 AM<br /><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Trust<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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       <p class="MsoNormal"> Ho indeed Harrison! OpenSpace opens space for freedom of spirit and heart, choice and the weaving of our fates and destinies with that of our world, it does not achieve complience and so, at least to the extent that people are to be managed...<u></u><u></u></p> 
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        <p class="MsoNormal">On Saturday, February 1, 2014, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Brendan said: &#x201c;And in my view , all germinating from that initial transfer of trust between mentor and sponsor&#x201d; Right on! I don&#x2019;t think it makes a bit of difference how elegantly one &#x201c;does&#x201d; the Open Space. It is really all about TRUST. When I said that anybody with a good heart and good mind can &#x201c;do it,&#x201d; that is just a long winded way of saying what I&#x2019;ve always found to be true. Expertise is interesting. Integrity and Trust are essential. A new comer to the OS world, opening space for the very first time, muffing some lines, and forgetting others &#x2013; can do every bit as well as a 20 year veteran. The coin of the realm is Integrity, authenticity, trust. But none of that should be news, for that trio is the bedrock of all positive human encounter, I think. Which may just be another way of pointing out that OS is not some special process we do, it is just life lived well. Or something.</span><u></u><u></u></p> 
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           <p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808 River Falls Dr.</span><u></u><u></u></p> 
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            <p><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brendan McKeague<br /> <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 01, 2014 12:57 AM<br /><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Sponsor PreWork Conversation (long)</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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          <p>A very interesting question Chuni Li...<u></u><u></u></p>
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           <p>The sponsor was being mentored by one of my colleagues in our local Open Space community of practice (Wave Riders) who suggested to him that OS was the right method/model for the task at hand.  As his coach (the formal role as perceived by the organisation), my colleague encouraged the sponsor to get in touch with me to avoid any perceived conflict of interest. The sponsor researched OS for himself first and then engaged me to provide the specialist knowledge....Harrison often says that anyone with a good heart and head can open space - and I agree - while at the same time, I acknowledge that 'Open Space wisdom' is often helpful, if not necessary, in situations of increased complexity and potential conflict. <u></u><u></u></p> 
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           <p>After his initial attraction to OS in theory, and as part of his research, the sponsor then ran a mini Open Space within his own jurisdiction to see how it worked in reality - he wished to speak from his lived experience when engaging with his higher-uppers.  He also watched a few of the growing library of YouTube clips that are so wonderful for educating potential sponsors.  <u></u><u></u></p> 
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           <p>Now totally convinced, the transfer of trust was complete at various levels....trusting the process (OST works) AND trusting the facilitator (who was aligned with the essence of OST - i.e living in it) AND trusting that both facilitator and process were 'fit-for-purpose' in this context. <u></u><u></u></p> 
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           <p>And in my view , all germinating from that initial transfer of trust between mentor and sponsor<u></u><u></u></p>
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           <p>Hope this story helps <u></u><u></u></p> 
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           <p>Cheers Brendan<u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p>On 31/01/2014, at 1:10 PM, <a href="mailto:chunili2000@yahoo.com" target="_blank">chunili2000@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p> 
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                <p style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Thank you Brendan for taking the time to organize and share this information - so precious and such a generous gift!</span><u></u><u></u></p> 
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