<div dir="ltr"><div>So what is it we "feel" when we feel trust? How do we know it? I suggest that its a whole constellations of variables unique to each being. To feel/know trust, such constellations converge like a whole set of experiences we've had being ourselves, within various contexts, where we come to trust ourselves to handle whatever happens (history of our acts, inner and outer) and what shows up as a side effect is that others sense it, recall that feeling in themselves, and in some way the "trust field" expands, becomes awake in that relating way.<br>
<br>Using Barrett's value ideas, it would be the result of a "data
gathering" of all that we are in the moment, DNA history as well as our
history of acts and the intersection of my world-view with your
world-view. <br></div><div>That said, I suspect everyone will use or relate to trust uniquely, and i suspect there is a value energy field of trust, cosmic or universal, imprinted somewhere/somehow, that we all know this feeling when we experience it, not always knowing how we got there, or what caused us to know or recognize it when we do. <br>
<br>But nevertheless, we feel the pull to it, as a necessary need for survival, existence to act in concert with self-evident unalienable rights of life. <br><br></div><div>When I listen to stories about those who have facilitated/mediated/ whatever you call it, peace treaties, I learn that those folks who were trusted, and ultimately brought success (G. Mitchell in Ireland) "held the space open" for all possibilities, had no desire to impose a solution he wanted or what he thought needed to happen except to keep remembering the higher goal everyone wanted, to stop the pain, suffering. i.e, that he did not bring an "ego, will, desire to control" into the situation.<br>
<br></div><div>So yes, Paul, one cannot will to not be controlling, and perhaps that's what learning about trust is for some, a self-knowing, feeling the way to understanding there is no need or will to control and a sense of allowing the wave riding flow, whatever form life takes.<br>
</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:37 PM, paul levy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@cats3000.net" target="_blank">paul@cats3000.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The danger here Is too fall down the trapdoor that lies just outside the Gates of Heaven.<div><br></div><div>That danger is to try to ensure the absence of control by trying to control that absence.</div>
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Hi</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Paul </font></span><div><div class="h5"><span></span><br><br><a>On Sunday, 2 February 2014</a>, Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">David –</span> “<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Could you say more about "the mere search for control being the total antithesis of trust." Sure. Nothing complicated or esoteric. If you walk into a group of people with the notion that you need to, or have to, control what is going on – that would be a pretty clear indication to me that you didn’t trust the people to do what was needed if left to their own devices.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Harrison, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p>I'd like to deepen my understanding of something you shared in this post......Could you say more about "the mere search for control being the total antithesis of trust." <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p>David <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p>On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Harrison Owen <<a></a><a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote: <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Annamarie – Meditation. It has been my experience that meditation prior to opening space, particularly in a “difficult” situation, is the only absolutely essential prework for the facilitator. All the rest can be helpful, but coming to the circle scattered, confused and anxious is a good way to fry your soul and create an environment that matches your state. The core issue is that losing your center is very nervous making – and in such a state it is all too easy to fall back into that old bug-a-boo, The Need for Control. Of course you will never achieve Control, but the mere search for it is the total antithesis of trust. And you can see where that gets you... </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It is certainly true that OS seems to work even when the facilitator is a nervous wreck, which I think says more about the power of self organization than anything else, but how much better things seem to go when you enter that circle calm, cool, and comfortable – just radiating trust in the people and their capacity. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The key for me is presence and focus. Being totally present and at one with the situation. There is no magic here but a period of meditation has been my way. Others will find a different way, a good walk for example. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison Owen</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a>7808 River Falls Dr</a>.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a>Potomac, MD 20854</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a>189 Beaucaire Ave</a>. (summer)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a>Camden, Maine 04843</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Phone <a></a><a href="tel:301-365-2093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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