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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ADD TO MARIE”S STATE OF THE TIME BANK MEMOIR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Shinsato<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 10, 2014 7:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] From linkedin today<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison,<br>
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It seemed like you were having a problem with understanding when you wrote the following:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"When I was confronted with what was happening in Open Space (25 years ago) it made absolutely no sense to me at all. And what makes no sense does not lend
itself to understanding. I “knew,” as did everybody else of my age, background and training – that what seemed to be taking place in Open Space simply could not happen. Organization was something that we created, managed, and controlled."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are so many theoretical frameworks that have begun to embody the more adaptive systems thinking required maybe not to fully understand, but to start to
improve our models of organization not something as something we impose - but something that we can nurture, cultivate, or just open ourselves to experience.<br>
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It seems like this thread has been about understanding self-organization. I love that you brought something from Quantum Mechanics that "somebody's formulation was good, but not crazy enough to be true." This reminds me of the Tao Te Ching. The Tao that can
be spoken is not the true Tao.<br>
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It reminds me a lot of what you wrote in Spirit, and which you mentioned in your TED talk. Story tellers don't tell the truth. But in the story, truth emerges. Probably between the words.<br>
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If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better stories (theories).<br>
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Harold<br>
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On 1/10/14 5:08 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harold – I have no problem with “understanding.” Good and useful enterprise. Question is: Understanding of what? And in what frame or context. I think we have
come to a point where we “understand” </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> that there are multiple logics, each appropriate to different
senses of reality. Newtonian Physics really does work. AND Quantum Mechanics was/is crazy. In fact one of the framers of Quantum Mechanics (Heisenberg I think) remarked that that somebody’s formulation was good, but not crazy enough to be true. Or something.
I think we may be at a similar paradigm/shift point. We’ll see how it all turn out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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