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Yes, and play is fun. Play is invigorating. Play brings action. Play
brings movement. Life is action. Life is movement!<br>
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An entertaining example of play ... action and movement from some
surprising players, in open space:<br>
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"Let us play"...
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/14 3:03 PM, Harold Shinsato
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Harrison,<br>
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I was going to ask you to say more about "High Play", but it was
easy to learn more about your ideas here with a quick google
search. From <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm">http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm</a>.
The emphasis is mine.<br>
<blockquote>High Play denotes the manner in which the people
involved approach their task – playfully. Quite often play is
understood to be a trivial incidental compared to the real
business of living. I think this is a profound error. Play for
me may be the most serious (important) of our many
undertakings. The importance of play derives from the fact
that when we experience reality in different and unexpected
ways, <b>we seek to understand (develop knowledge about) </b><b>our
new experience by telling likely stories, or in more formal
terms, creating theories</b>. We take the available
evidence, combined with our prior experience and try to
construct reasonable explanations for the newly observed
phenomenon. Almost inevitably our first attempts are flawed,
and it is often the case that there are as many theories
(stories) as people telling them. If everybody treats their
version as the “gospel truth” it is not long before the dead
hand of dogma descends, and the search for understanding
degenerates into a fight amongst ideologues. On the other
hand, when people treat their new adventure in a playful
fashion, there may well be serious competition, but there is
also deep respect for the “opponents,” and a real joy in the
game. In Open Space it is very common to see the game of
knowledge building played with real skill and enjoyment – even
by people who have never done anything like that before.<br>
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I really like the presence of "real joy in the game" of finding
the best likely stories (theories). I also love the value you
express for "deep respect for the 'opponents'".<br>
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Game on!<br>
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Harold<br>
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“If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a
likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better
stories (theories).” Actually, my words for this are High
Play. I’ve found that good theory building is best done
playfully, which does not make it a trivial activity, but
it does guard against dogmatism. Good theory, playfully
created, and playfully held is always open to revision –
or just plain discard. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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It seemed like you were having a problem with
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I was confronted with what was happening in Open Space
(25 years ago) it made absolutely no sense to me at all.
And what makes no sense does not lend itself to
understanding. I “knew,” as did everybody else of my
age, background and training – that what seemed to be
taking place in Open Space simply could not happen.
Organization was something that we created, managed, and
controlled."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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are so many theoretical frameworks that have begun to
embody the more adaptive systems thinking required maybe
not to fully understand, but to start to improve our
models of organization not something as something we
impose - but something that we can nurture, cultivate,
or just open ourselves to experience.<br>
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It seems like this thread has been about understanding
self-organization. I love that you brought something
from Quantum Mechanics that "somebody's formulation was
good, but not crazy enough to be true." This reminds me
of the Tao Te Ching. The Tao that can be spoken is not
the true Tao.<br>
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It reminds me a lot of what you wrote in Spirit, and
which you mentioned in your TED talk. Story tellers
don't tell the truth. But in the story, truth emerges.
Probably between the words.<br>
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If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a
likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell
better stories (theories).<br>
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Harold<br>
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– I have no problem with “understanding.” Good and
useful enterprise. Question is: Understanding of what?
And in what frame or context. I think we have come to a
point where we “understand” </span><span
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that there are multiple logics, each appropriate to
different senses of reality. Newtonian Physics really
does work. AND Quantum Mechanics was/is crazy. In fact
one of the framers of Quantum Mechanics (Heisenberg I
think) remarked that that somebody’s formulation was
good, but not crazy enough to be true. Or something. I
think we may be at a similar paradigm/shift point. We’ll
see how it all turn out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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