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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Harrison,<br>
      <br>
      I was going to ask you to say more about "High Play", but it was
      easy to learn more about your ideas here with a quick google
      search. From <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm">http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm</a>.
      The emphasis is mine.<br>
      <blockquote>High Play denotes the manner in which the people
        involved approach their task – playfully. Quite often play is
        understood to be a trivial incidental compared to the real
        business of living. I think this is a profound error. Play for
        me may be the most serious (important) of our many undertakings.
        The importance of play derives from the fact that when we
        experience reality in different and unexpected ways, <b>we seek
          to understand (develop knowledge about) </b><b>our new
          experience by telling likely stories, or in more formal terms,
          creating theories</b>. We take the available evidence,
        combined with our prior experience and try to construct
        reasonable explanations for the newly observed phenomenon.
        Almost inevitably our first attempts are flawed, and it is often
        the case that there are as many theories (stories) as people
        telling them. If everybody treats their version as the “gospel
        truth” it is not long before the dead hand of dogma descends,
        and the search for understanding degenerates into a fight
        amongst ideologues.  On the other hand, when people treat their
        new adventure in a playful fashion, there may well be serious
        competition, but there is also deep respect for the “opponents,”
        and a real joy in the game. In Open Space it is very common to
        see the game of knowledge building played with real skill and
        enjoyment – even by people who have never done anything like
        that before.<br>
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      I really like the presence of "real joy in the game" of finding
      the best likely stories (theories). I also love the value you
      express for "deep respect for the 'opponents'".<br>
      <br>
      Game on!<br>
      <br>
          Harold<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 1/11/14 11:58 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harold
            – I like your last line,</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
            “If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a
            likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better
            stories (theories).” Actually, my words for this are High
            Play. I’ve found that good theory building is best done
            playfully, which does not make it a trivial activity, but it
            does guard against dogmatism. Good theory, playfully
            created, and playfully held is always open to revision – or
            just plain discard. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">7808
              River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Potomac,
              MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Camden,
              Maine 04843<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(summer) 
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Shinsato<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 10, 2014 7:55 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison,<br>
              <br>
              It seemed like you were having a problem with
              understanding when you wrote the following:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">"When
              I was confronted with what was happening in Open Space (25
              years ago) it made absolutely no sense to me at all. And
              what makes no sense does not lend itself to understanding.
              I “knew,” as did everybody else of my age, background and
              training – that what seemed to be taking place in Open
              Space simply could not happen. Organization was something
              that we created, managed, and controlled."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There
              are so many theoretical frameworks that have begun to
              embody the more adaptive systems thinking required maybe
              not to fully understand, but to start to improve our
              models of organization not something as something we
              impose - but something that we can nurture, cultivate, or
              just open ourselves to experience.<br>
              <br>
              It seems like this thread has been about understanding
              self-organization. I love that you brought something from
              Quantum Mechanics that "somebody's formulation was good,
              but not crazy enough to be true." This reminds me of the
              Tao Te Ching. The Tao that can be spoken is not the true
              Tao.<br>
              <br>
              It reminds me a lot of what you wrote in Spirit, and which
              you mentioned in your TED talk. Story tellers don't tell
              the truth. But in the story, truth emerges. Probably
              between the words.<br>
              <br>
              If we can hold our theories in the same fashion as "a
              likely story", maybe we'll start being able to tell better
              stories (theories).<br>
              <br>
                  Harold<br>
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            On 1/10/14 5:08 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harold
              – I have no problem with “understanding.” Good and useful
              enterprise. Question is: Understanding of what? And in
              what frame or context. I think we have come to a point
              where we “understand” </span><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">
              that there are multiple logics, each appropriate to
              different senses of reality. Newtonian Physics really does
              work. AND Quantum Mechanics was/is crazy. In fact one of
              the framers of Quantum Mechanics (Heisenberg I think)
              remarked that that somebody’s formulation was good, but
              not crazy enough to be true. Or something.  I think we may
              be at a similar paradigm/shift point. We’ll see how it all
              turn out.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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      Harold Shinsato<br>
      <a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a><br>
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