<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Dear Diane,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Thank you for your input. This is a big help!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Cheers,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0,
0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Carms</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div><font color="#60bf00" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><strong>If there is to be any peace it will come through being, not having. -- Henry Miller</strong></i></font></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block; "> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, 17 October 2013, 1:57, Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault@rogers.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div
class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv1449078009"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div><span>Hi Carmela,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>
</span><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">I will share my experience with and without interpreters.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">First - Without interpreters as this is a
more common situation </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">I have facilitated an international OS
conference organized by an NGO who did not have a budget for interpretation. This in fact is more representative of my experience with OS where there is a mix of languages. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- Participants posted a topic in the
language in which they planned to start the discussion. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- I encouraged all participants to add in smaller
print, circled at a bottom corner of their sheet, their topic in another
language, one they were familiar with or they could ask another participant to
translate it for them. I showed
them an example as I explained this so it would be visual and easier to
understand. The intent was to allow more people to understand the topic and
join the discussion.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- Participants were invited to use the
buddy system: participate to a given group along with someone who is familiar
with the language of the posted topic. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- A system of volunteers can be easily
created. Participants can volunteer to be language buddies as needed by wearing
an additional badge which indicates the languages they can offer help with. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- Independently of these systems, what we
know is that the resources are in the group – someone can do the interpretation
- and if not, if people care enough, the participant or the group, they will
find external resources. I was in
a group once where someone
interpreted from Spanish to English and I interpreted from English to French
and it worked wonderfully. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- In an OS where there are many languages,
often people select topics they want to join among those posted in a language they
understand. It’s a personal choice. OS is all about choices one makes. The law
of the two feet allows everyone to find the place the want in the given
context.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Now - With interpreters</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">I did an Open Space in Brasil with about
200 participants where interpreters simultaneously transmitted what was being
said in the large circle, in 4 different languages. </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA">- I gave interpreters in advance, an
example of the OS opening points so they could get familiarized with the OS terms and
concepts. I also spoke to them about the spirit of OS so that might influence
their choice of words to better reflect the intent.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">- For the discussion groups, a team of about of
about 8 interpreters was available in the lobby; anyone could ask them to join
a group as needed. </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA">- In the groups, they would do consecutive interpretation, i.e. sitting
beside the person(s) wanting interpretation so they could speak in a lower
voice directly to them. </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA">- When those participants spoke, their comment would be
interpreted in the language of the rest of the group (in this case, often
English or Spanish). </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA">- The rest of the group would generally wait for the
interpretation to be completed before another person spoke, especially if the
statement being interpreted was lengthy. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span style="background-color:transparent;">- Often interpreters were not busy, as
participants were doing the interpretation themselves.</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">In either approaches, with or without interpretation, the experience of
helping one another creates a very special bond among participants. </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA">That’s what we
say in the opening: OS is about collaboration and being creative. </span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA"> </span></div><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span lang="FR-CA"> Hope this is helpful</span></div>
<div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><span lang="FR-CA">Diane Gibeault</span></div>
</div><div></div><div> </div><div><div style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;line-height:1.22;padding:0px;margin:2px 0px 0px 2px;display:block;"><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal"><div style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;line-height:1.22;padding:0px;margin:2px 0px 0px 2px;display:block;"><div class="yiv1449078009MsoNormal" style="font-family: Times; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; "><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div class="yiv1449078009yqt5668750536" id="yiv1449078009yqt25296"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Carmela Ariza
<carmela_ariza@yahoo.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 14, 2013 7:45:49 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [OSList] How to deal with having many languages in open space?<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv1449078009y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv1449078009"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div><span>Dear OS practitioners,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size:
16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Good day!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>How do you address the need for interpreters/translators when doing
open space, particularly Open Space sessions....wherein everyone is in different topic groups...?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>How many interpreters would be needed for a 200 pax out of 1000 pax (for example) - who do not really speak English well (if at all they do speak any English)?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>How do you deal with this situation?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>For the OS principles, law - we will definitely be having posters on the wall - in different languages....</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Looking
forward to your helpful experiences and suggestions!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Best,</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Carms</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent;
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