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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Artur – given the state of my memory...who knows. But I do know that several people told me I said something like that so....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ho<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Camden, Maine 04843<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(summer) 207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.openspaceworld.com%20"><span style='color:blue'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="www.ho-image.com%20"><span style='color:blue'>www.ho-image.com</span></a> (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 14, 2013 6:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list; 'Harold Shinsato'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Original Harrison Owen paper on "Organization Transformation"?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Harold: The idea of correcting the OST entry in the Wikipedia is very valuable.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>But, in what concerns the initial part with issues (</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>In the early 1980s</span><sup><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Chronological_items" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>when?</span></a></i>]</span></sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>, Harrison Owen wrote a paper on what he called "organization transformation". He presented this paper at a traditional management conference</span><sup><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>which?</span></a></i>]</span></sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>. It was well enough received that a number of people</span><sup><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>who?</span></a></i>]</span></sup><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> urged Owen to organize a conference to specifically address the issues and opportunities he identified in his paper.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>) as there was not such paper, but only a presentation, can't this be explained on the "talk page" and propose that the all sentence be supressed?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Harrison: Even if you are not sure if you said that at the time, it is still correct and I am sure that you wrote it now :-) </span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>So can I quote this:<o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>«I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.»? </span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards</span></i><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Artur</span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#0B0080'>?<o:p></o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:57 PM, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=yiv4205374930><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>OK – got a clue. I did make a presentation at a regional gathering of the ODN in the early 80’s. Actually David Belle Isle and I did it jointly. The title of our presentation was “Myth and Ritual as the Ground for Organization Transformation.” There never really was a paper, just some notes, and we just talked. I vaguely recall the last remarks – which I made – “I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.” Or something.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>ho</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span 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style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Potomac, MD 20854</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>USA</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><span 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style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv4205374930yqt41976><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Harold Shinsato [<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">mailto:harold@shinsato.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> OSLIST; Harrison Owen<br><b>Subject:</b> Original Harrison Owen paper on "Organization Transformation"?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hey folks, an ongoing effort of many people on this list and of the Open Space Institute U.S. has been to fix up the Wikipedia page. <a href="http://wikipedia.org/Open_Space_Technology" target="_blank">http://wikipedia.org/Open_Space_Technology</a>. It has had some of the ugly warnings at the beginning removed, but there are still issues.<br><br>The opening of the current version of the wikipedia article cites a paper Harrison Owen wrote at "a traditional management conference".<br><br>What was this paper and is it available anywhere?<br><br>When was it published?<br><br>What was the traditional management conference where it was published?<br><br> Thanks!<br> Harold<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-- <br>Harold Shinsato<br><a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com" target="_blank">harold@shinsato.com</a><br><a href="http://shinsato.com/" target="_blank">http://shinsato.com</a><br>twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/hajush" target="_blank">@hajush</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yqt37312><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>