<div dir="ltr">yes, but the words personal agency of each "self-organizing" person is what's drives the process - a fulfillment of ones own intrinsic motivation. Now that takes a long response.I just found a peice I wrote around conversations recently with David Glenwinkle about VillageCare.com his organization in Africa and a group in Mexico who use this very language. I'm always looking for the "organizing principles" to learn what are the universals in these processes that work with "self-organization." I suspect that's what we're trying to identify. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Daniel Mezick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dan@newtechusa.net" target="_blank">dan@newtechusa.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I'm loving the richness of this conversation. I'm loving it so much!<br>
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One question that comes up for me repeatedly, as I read and ponder
the responses to OST-as-game: what is the goal (if any) of
self-organizing behavior? Is the question even worth answering? If
so, why so? If not, why not?<br>
<br>
Where do I go, with this line of reasoning? Here:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleology" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleology</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div>On 10/14/13 4:53 PM, Harrison Owen
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Behalf Of </b>paul levy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 14, 2013 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] The OST Game<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Harrison <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whatever you experienced as OST when it
first escaped has largely become a game. A game of training.
A game of "go back to base and read the manual". Even you
play a regular game on here as one of the elders who keep
defending OST against change (oh yes you do). It's become a
game with a book of instructions with bells, anti-clockwise
circle walking and "rules". That's a shame and, thankfully,
fairly pointless as it keeps on escaping in different and
lovely ways anyway.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now, opening space, that's something
really worth trying... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(Waits as the usual elders line up to
deliver their wise pronouncements)...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So it goes.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Paul Levy<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Monday, 14 October 2013, Harrison Owen wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">A
marvelous conversation... and I have been absent a bit
for a good cause, I hope. I have been doing my
homework, reading all the assigned material about
broken reality and culture hacking. Interesting
journey! And along the way I came upon an odd
realization – I really just don’t like games! Seems it
had something to do with early childhood trauma... my
mother just loved games, and she would beat me
unmercifully. Oh well. Unfortunately that aversion
carried on into my adult life, particularly as it
related to the so called Group Dynamics games that we
were all supposed to play prior to serious discussion.
Seems like you just couldn’t have an adult interchange
without some “warm-up” to break the ice. Or so they
said. Really bugged me. I just couldn’t believe that
consenting adults could not communicate without some
elaborate foreplay – funny tools drawn from the
omnipresent Facilitator’s Tool Box.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
much for my inherent pathology and prejudices, but
there may be something of a positive outcome. I simply
had to believe that given reasonable conditions, human
beings could sit down and talk productively with each
other – all by themselves. As adults. It did take two
martinis to get me there... but “there” was (guess
what) Open Space. We have been doing that ever since,
and it turns out that children do just as well. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">What
may have started as childish rebellion (against
Mother, Facilitators, etc) has only gotten worse. With
increasing age and experience it has become clearer
and clearer that the less I do the better things work.
It is not that I have no agency or contribution, but
it does turn out that the ambient wisdom and capacity
of the individuals and groups that I am privileged to
interact with so vastly exceeds my own that I would do
very well to fold my hands and shut my mouth. Anything
else has me working much too hard, and generally
messing things up... Such are the eye glasses through
which I view my world. Distorted perhaps, and
different for sure, but I’m stuck with it. And it is
through those glasses that I read my assignments,
beginning with “Reality is Broken.” </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jane
McGonigal weaves a fascinating tale of the strange (to
me) world of Game Makers, Gaming, and Gamers. I can
certainly understand why she has created a stir, and I
applaud her massive research and clear prose. That
said, my reaction was close to horror, and the thought
that the world and techniques she describes should
become a model and a means to fix our world was pretty
close to terror. Doubtless much of this can be
ascribed to my aforementioned phobia – but I suspect
that others might share such feelings. Two points
stand out in my mind—Gaming is addictive, a point she
develops in infinite detail, and secondly that good
Game Makers actually capitalize on this phenomenon and
make every effort to enhance the addictive power.
Their success is obvious and awesome. It seems that
one massive, online game attracted 5,000,000 man/years
of attention. George Orwell, where are you now that we
need you?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
joke a bit – and my concerns run deeper. When Jane
says, “Reality is Broken,” I feel constrained to ask,
Who’s reality? Not mine, for sure. It is not that I
experience every day as a walk in the park, but there
have been precious few moments when I have felt bored,
without challenge, non-productive and
unappreciated/respected. And I have many friends and
colleagues around the world who seemingly have a
similar experience. Doubtless that makes us odd,
perhaps aberrant, but there is a certain consolation
in numbers. We are not alone. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">When
I think about the factors that positively contribute
to my reality they include such things as the
indeterminacy of my surroundings. The moment I think I
know where it is all headed, I am confounded by the
twists of happenstance. Then there is the total lack
of clarity when it comes to goals and objectives.
Certainly I have hopes and desires, but just about
every time I have locked on some particular outcome,
it doesn’t turn out that way – usually better. And
lastly, if there are clear cut rules, I certainly have
never found them. Of course there are moments when I
think it is all a dreadful mistake and I am scared to
death. But even that has its positive: I know I am
alive. So for me, my reality is doing just fine.
Exciting, challenging, growthful, rewarding -- In fact
it seems to be working perfectly.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
am truly sorry for those who have a different
experience, but if reality for them is broken, it is
reasonable to ask, Who broke it? Or could it be that
it isn’t really broken, they just think it is, if only
because it doesn’t measure up to their expectations.
That would certainly be the case if reality was <b>supposed</b>
to work by clear cut rules, heading in a
pre-determined direction, always under somebody’s
control. That understanding of reality is certainly
alternate to anything I know anything about. It just
never happened, and if it did I believe it would be
unendingly boring. But that might account for the Game
Maker’s success – for if I read Jane correctly, that
is pretty much the reality they create. And if that is
the reality you want, no wonder people spend 5 million
man/years immersed in it!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
on to a related question: Is OST a game? Possibly, but
not according to Jane’s rules/criteria. To be sure,
there is a correlation with Jane’s first criteria: Opt
in = Voluntary Self Selection, and a second one
relating to Good Feedback (we might say
documentation). But it seems to me it all goes
downhill from there. If there are any rules in Open
Space, I have yet to encounter them. To be sure there
are 5 principles and a law, but none of them are
things you have to do. In fact they all seem to emerge
no matter what you do – all by themselves. As for a
clear goal, I think you have precisely the opposite.
Everything begins with a question, and under the best
of circumstances there is no attachment to outcomes.
As we say, Whatever happens is the only thing that
could have.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Just
to drive a little deeper. If OST is not a game – what
is it?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Drum
roll... Cutting edge revelation...</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">OST...
is ... Life. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
does not bring anything new. Represents no mind
bending revelation. In fact it doesn’t DO a thing.
Nothing. OST simply and quietly invites us to be,
fully, what we already are – ourselves. It really is
shocking. Just be yourself as you really are. Drawn by
a question (Quest) – you are invited to explore what
you really care about. No foregone conclusions. No
prior exclusions (givens). No rules prescribed (by
somebody else). Just be yourself and take it from
there. Of course it helps to be honest. What do you
really care about? And if you care, take
responsibility for what you care about. Nobody else
will. And you don’t need an act of Congress,
Parliament, the Legislature, or the writings of the
latest Guru. It’s just you. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But
not just you. Who shares your passion? Who will join
you in the assumed responsibility? In advance you
simply don’t know, nor can you predict. But when it
happens, you know it happens. Life not only goes on –
it gets deeper and richer with the shared passions and
responsibilities that weave the rich tapestry of the
human odyssey.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
know you have heard this song before, but I think it
bears re-singing. The temptation to change this simple
invitation into some complex process, procedure,
structure is almost overwhelming, driven I am sure by
our hope to improve and also perhaps to make it
something we own or do. Something that requires the
professional touch, as it were. But the truth of the
matter, I believe, is that there really isn’t anything
to improve and still less to do. Above all, Don’t fix
it if it ain’t broke, and always think of one less
thing to do.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
where does all this discussion leave Agile and OST, or
more exactly the relationship between the two? Closely
united, I believe – but perhaps not in the way that
Dan and others seem to be suggesting, even though that
way appears to be eminently rational and definitely a
good plan.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
understand that Agile (as described in the Agile
Manifesto) is an elegant set of principles which await
implementation (adoption) through some method or
process, SCRUM for example. The principles are
magnificent and represent the latest iteration of a
longish tradition beginning perhaps with Quality
Circles, and passing through Excellent Organizations
(Tom Peters et al), Learning Organizations, with
possibly a side trip through Process Re-Engineering.
In every case, elaborate processes, procedures, and
protocols were designed in order to bring the noble
ideas into everyday practice. In every case the energy
and enthusiasm surrounding the several efforts was
considerable (aided I suspect by the fat consulting
fees that could be generated). And in every case I
believe we learned many useful lessons. However, in
terms of the desired outcome, which might be described
as “enhanced organizational function,” I think the
record is less than positive. Only people of a certain
age will even remember Quality Circles, Excellent
Organizations seem evident mostly by their absence,
The Society of Organizational Learning disbanded last
year, and Process Engineering has been retired by
general consensus as an embarrassing failure. Jane
McGonigal may just have written the epitaph, “Reality
is Broken.” Whether Agile and its several
implementation procedures (SCRUM, etc) will meet a
similar fate remains to be seen.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Reasonable
people might well ask, how could we invest so much and
accomplish so little? Doubtless there are multiple
answers, but one stands out for me. We’ve been trying
to organize self organizing systems. This is a
thankless task if only because we will never get it
right; the systems involved (our businesses,
countries, organizations) are so complex,
inter-related, and fast moving that we can’t even
think at that level – let alone effectively structure
and control them. Even worse it seems all too often
that our best efforts and intentions make the
situation worse – our fixes end up with painful
unintended consequences. But worst of all our efforts
are not needed because the system itself, all by
itself, can do a better job. Frankly our efforts are
just plain clunky.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It
is precisely at the point where I think other efforts
have been less than successful that OST may enable
Agile to succeed -- but not by facilitating the
adoption Agile as a set of principles, but in a much
more immediate and direct fashion: by enabling
Agility. The principles are definitely nice, but what
we truly care about is real, meaningful,
organizational agility, which others might call High
Performance, and Open Space demonstrably delivers on
that score. My favorite story, of course is the
AT&T design team for the ’96 Olympic Pavilion. In
2 days they designed a $200,000,000 structure which
had taken them 10 months on a previous effort. That is
a 15,000% increase in productivity. Not bad. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If
that were the only instance of such a phenomenon it
would be interesting but not helpful, but there are
others, a lot. And how does all that work? It is just
a well functioning self organizing system. And if you
ask whether it is all scalable – the answer is it is
already scaled to the highest levels. Been around for
13.7 billion years, and the Cosmos (along with
everything else) is the product. Don’t adopt Agile, BE
agile. Honestly, it is a natural condition if we stop
trying to fix it. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
I think we have some very good news here. Reality
ain’t broke and serious Agility is available any time
we want to open the space to let it happen. And if you
were wondering who all those friends and colleagues
around the world who know that their reality is
unbroken (albeit painful sometimes) you can start by
looking in a mirror. Yes, I am talking about all those
folks who have wandered into Open Space to discover,
many times in spite of themselves – that deep,
meaningful, productive, playful, respectful encounters
with their fellows can and do happen. That is just a
taste, of course – but it can happen all the time --
24X7. I know.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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