<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Harold: The idea of correcting the OST entry in the Wikipedia is very valuable.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>But, in what concerns the initial part with issues (</span><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;">In the early 1980s</span><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="line-height: 1em; white-space: nowrap;">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Chronological_items" title="Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none;
background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span title="The time period mentioned near this tag is ambiguous. (September 2013)">when?</span></a></i>]</sup><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;">, Harrison Owen wrote a paper on what he called "organization transformation". He presented this paper at a traditional management conference</span><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="line-height: 1em; white-space: nowrap;">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span title="The material near this tag possibly uses too vague attribution or weasel words. (September 2013)">which?</span></a></i>]</sup><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;">. It was well
enough received that a number of people</span><sup class="noprint Inline-Template" style="line-height: 1em; white-space: nowrap;">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words" class="mw-redirect" style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(11, 0, 128); background-image: none; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><span title="The material near this tag possibly uses too-vague attribution or weasel words. (September 2013)">who?</span></a></i>]</sup><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;"> urged Owen to organize a conference to specifically address the issues and opportunities he identified in his paper.</span><span style="background-color: transparent;">) as there was not such paper, but only a presentation, can't this be explained on the "talk page" and propose that the all sentence be supressed?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(11, 0,
128); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18px;">Harrison: Even if you are not sure if you said that at the time, it is still correct and I am sure that you wrote it now :-) </span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18px;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 18px;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18px;">So can I quote this:</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color:
transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="font-size: 18px;"><span style="background-color: transparent;">«</span><span>I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.</span><span style="background-color: transparent;">»? </span></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: large;">Regards</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(11, 0, 128); font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span
style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 18px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Artur</span>?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(11, 0, 128); font-size: 13px; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(11, 0, 128); font-size: 13px; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; font-style: italic;"><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:57 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net> wrote:<br> </font> </div>
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#yiv4205374930 </style><div><div class="yiv4205374930WordSection1"><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">OK – got a clue. I did make a presentation at a regional gathering of the ODN in the early 80’s. Actually David Belle Isle and I did it jointly. The title of our presentation was “Myth and Ritual as the Ground for Organization Transformation.” There never really was a paper, just some notes, and we just talked. I vaguely recall the last remarks – which I made – “I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.” Or something.</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">ho</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">
</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Harrison Owen</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">7808 River Falls Dr.</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Potomac, MD 20854</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">USA</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Camden, Maine 04843</span></div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> </span></div><div
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an ongoing effort of many people on this list and of the Open Space Institute U.S. has been to fix up the Wikipedia page. <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://wikipedia.org/Open_Space_Technology">http://wikipedia.org/Open_Space_Technology</a>. It has had some of the ugly warnings at the beginning removed, but there are still issues.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The opening of the current version of the wikipedia article cites a paper Harrison Owen wrote at "a traditional management conference".<br clear="none"><br clear="none">What was this paper and is it available anywhere?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">When was it published?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">What was the traditional management conference where it was published?<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> Thanks!<br clear="none"> Harold</div><div><div class="yiv4205374930MsoNormal">-- <br clear="none">Harold Shinsato<br
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