<div dir="ltr">Hi Carmela!<div><br></div><div>I will second much of what Ben Roberts has said: </div><div><ol><li>I still use <b>Google docs</b> a lot despite potential concerns about their <b>user terms of service</b> (see below, terms provided to me as a sage reminder by a fellow OS'er)</li>
<ol><li>a major benefit is that people <b>don't have to sign in</b> to access and edit documents </li><li>it is easy to use (to me), with good functionality like the ability to easily created a hyperlinked table of contents and to connect among or embed google doc types (spreadsheets/forms/etc), as well as external files and websites. </li>
<ol><li>For example, as a potential format for an online unconference that is being planned, I created a sample <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsXdTUUjiQHOdHNldVpPNHFHaXFzYjh1enFYVW95QXc&usp=sharing">"marketplace"</a> in an excel google doc, which has a link to an indexed word google doc for capturing notes.</li>
</ol><li>That all being said, I'd like to move away from google docs</li></ol><li><b>Hackpad </b>- I started playing with this and it has a nice, simple layout and is pretty intuitive to use. I think it has good potential</li>
<ol><li>A few drawbacks: <b>users have to sign in </b>to access, unless you make the pads totally public.</li><li>Some functionality is a bit quirky (to me), like you can't just type in a URL and have it recognized, but it needs to be highlighted and the link added - not a biggie, but sub-optimal to me. </li>
<li>Also, while there is a nice table of contents listed on the side panel of all pads created - you cannot reorder those pads - they are automatically alphabetized or ordered numerically (but watch out with numbering as they don't follow base 10 values. For example, a pad labeled with a "10" will be placed, before a "1" and a "121" before a "12")</li>
<li>biggest drawback: users need to adjust their settings or they will get <b>spammed with updates</b> to "pads" that they are subscribed to whenever anyone makes a change to one when they are not actively on that pad..</li>
<li>On the pro side, it was easy to create a template for use as a place to record notes either during or after an event. Example: <a href="https://agileopenspace.hackpad.com/ep/group/y4jUVABl3RI">Open Space hackpad template</a></li>
</ol></ol><div><b>Google Terms of Service</b></div></div><div><a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">http://www.google.com/intl/en/<u></u>policies/terms/</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"> :</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">"When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps)."</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:58 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">A few years ago we built a tool for a 600 person world cafe called SMSHarvest. It allows participants at a gathering not post real time insights using text messages (meaning that you don't need smartphones mor even things like twitter which require registration and so on) The tool can be managed by using commands sent by text as well and can output things like word clouds, live streaming and tables of text categorized depending on the commands you have used. <div>
<br></div><div>At any rate, the developer, Luke Closs, made a little tool from the original code which you can learn about here: <a href="http://smsharvest.com" target="_blank">http://smsharvest.com</a>.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Chris</div><div><br><div><div class="im"><div>On 2013-09-30, at 8:03 AM, Michael Herman <<a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelherman.com</a>> wrote:</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<div class="im">I just started a new project using <a href="http://wikispaces.com/" target="_blank">wikispaces.com</a>. I find it <span></span>easy to use, even for beginners, as it works a lot like Word or other wordprocessing software. That said, there are a lot of special tools that allow organizers to do quite a number of tricky advanced things. <div>
<br></div></div><div><div class="im">The number of members in a single wiki is limited to five in the free version, but that can be easily worked around in a newsroom setting. And if many users want to be able to edit on an ongoing basis, there is a fee-based plan for unlimited users. The fee is waived for education applications. <br>
<div><br></div><div>Another important function, to add to those Ben mentioned, is the ability to export contents. <a href="http://Wikispaces.com" target="_blank">Wikispaces.com</a> does support exporting. </div><div><br>
Michael</div><div><br></div></div><div><div class="im"><br><br>On Monday, September 30, 2013, Ben Roberts wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">At the recent WOSonOS gathering in St. Petersburg FL, we had excellent success with the use of Google docs as the main newsroom platform. Participants could choose to take notes directly onto Google doc templates during a session (sometimes collaboratively in real time), or to take notes in some other way and then transfer them (with tech assistance from the newsroom “staff” if needed) to a Google doc. All notes were placed into a general folder with sharing settings granting access to anyone with the link. It contained sub-folders for each of the days of the engagement so that it was easy to find the notes online as soon as they were posted. I believe this approach has been used at some other OS engagements since then as well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Another platform to which I am partial is called “Hackpad” ( <a href="http://www.hackpad.com/" target="_blank">www.hackpad.com</a> ). This tool makes it easy to create a linked set of “pads” that I have found particularly valuable for virtual OST experiments such as this one: </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="https://hackpad.com/NDN-June-Open-Space-Home-Base-X0sVLLcTGtF" target="_blank">https://hackpad.com/NDN-June-Open-Space-Home-Base-X0sVLLcTGtF</a>. <span style="color:#1f497d">I have also used it successfully for in-person gatherings. It is much simpler to create links between various documents that belong to a given set using this platform. It also displays authorship, which is very nice for collaborative note-taking. And it has a very easy to use table of contents feature to help people move around a given document. Formatting and commenting options are more limited than Google Docs, however.</span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ben<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4f6228">Ben Roberts<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4f6228">The Conversation Collaborative<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4f6228"><a href="http://www.conversationcollaborative.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">www. ConversationCollaborative.com</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4f6228"><a href="tel:%28203%29%20426-1039" value="+12034261039" target="_blank">(203) 426-1039</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4f6228">Skype: benjamin_j_roberts<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a>oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a>oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carmela Ariza<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 27, 2013 8:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list; World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> [OSList] Please recommend a good website to post daily breaking news for OS!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dear fellow OS practitioners,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Good day!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Would you have websites you can recommend to me for the daily uploading of the documentation of the OS sessions? Kindly share from your experience the advantages and disadvantages of using this site...was it easy to access, did the documents open easily, etc...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Looking forward...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Carms<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><strong><i><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#60bf00">If there is to be any peace it will come through being, not having. -- Henry Miller</span></i></strong><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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