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Michael, I guess we'll have to disagree. I see OST's temporal
attempt at circumventing power dynamics (e.g through the the
empowered of the the law of two feet) as one of the beauties of the
process. <br>
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One of the reasons that the liberal view of market economics is
problematic is that it doesn't account for power imbalances. While
you can't take away all structural power, I think the OST experience
can be enhanced by at least some awareness and recognition of such
powers.<br>
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Bui<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/09/2013 10:56 PM, Michael Herman
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<div dir="ltr">i don't think ost is trying to "take away
structural power," bui -- not even temporarily. i think it's
more about acknowledging the distribution of knowledge and
choice (power) that already exists. the law of two feet isn't
something special we enact at the start of an event, it's
something we just notice and point out, for instance.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Bui
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Interesting
discussion. When I have described OST, some people have
been skeptical as it to them has has sounded to
"neo-liberal" and not taking power balances enough into
consideration. Obviously what the "structure" of OST is
trying to do is to take away structural power temporarily.
But some people are still skeptical about OST's potential
to do this. My own take is that OST does not always fully
succeed in this regard. <br>
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Still it is very interesting theoretically. Both there is
a lot of other (than economics) theoretical perspectives
that better deal with power.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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Bui</font></span>
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<div class="h5">I share your concerns, Jeff, but found
this piece to be mostly not about politics. And
where he comments on current views and policy, I was
less bothered by what he was saying than by my
tendency to agree in many cases. But mostly this is
interesting and useful totally separate from his
politics, I think. <br>
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<div>thanks Michael! </div>
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<div>It's unfortunate that I have a lingering
dislike for Mr. Gilder, who was famous for
awhile around 1981 when the Reagan
administration rolled out its economic agenda,
and his work was considered one of its
intellectual pillars.</div>
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<div>Twas a long time ago, and no doubt the man
remains a hard thinker and clear writer, perhaps
with more heart than I experienced back then.</div>
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<div>With that caveat, I'll dig into this when I
have a chance. Thanks for sharing.</div>
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<div>Jeff</div>
<div>San Francisco<br>
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12:25 PM, Michael Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p><font size="3" face="Calibri">Here's
a long one, friends… But maybe
an important one.</font></p>
<p><font size="3" face="Calibri">What
follows is an excerpt from a
markets newsletter I've read
for maybe 10 years by a
financial expert and
best-selling author Named John
Mauldin. He describes and
then shares an article by a
guy named George Gilder, Who
seems to have been writing
"important" books for at least
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