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    Michael, I guess we'll have to disagree. I see OST's temporal
    attempt at circumventing power dynamics (e.g through the the
    empowered of the the law of two feet) as one of the beauties of the
    process. <br>
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    One of the reasons that the liberal view of market economics is
    problematic is that it doesn't account for power imbalances. While
    you can't take away all structural power, I think the OST experience
    can be enhanced by at least some awareness and recognition of such
    powers.<br>
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    Bui<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/09/2013 10:56 PM, Michael Herman
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      <div dir="ltr">i don't think ost is trying to "take away
        structural power," bui -- not even temporarily.  i think it's
        more about acknowledging the distribution of knowledge and
        choice (power) that already exists.  the law of two feet isn't
        something special we enact at the start of an event, it's
        something we just notice and point out, for instance.  
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          Michael Herman<br>
          Michael Herman Associates<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Bui
          Petersen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Interesting
              discussion. When I have described OST, some people have
              been skeptical as it to them has has sounded to
              "neo-liberal" and not taking power balances enough into
              consideration. Obviously what the "structure" of OST is
              trying to do is to take away structural power temporarily.
              But some people are still skeptical about OST's potential
              to do this. My own take is that OST does not always fully
              succeed in this regard. <br>
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              Still it is very interesting theoretically. Both there is
              a lot of other (than economics) theoretical perspectives
              that better deal with power.<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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                  Bui</font></span>
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                  <div>On 26/09/2013 5:33 PM, Michael Herman wrote:<br>
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                  <div class="h5">I share your concerns, Jeff, but found
                    this piece to be mostly not about politics.  And
                    where he comments on current views and policy, I was
                    less bothered by what he was saying than by my
                    tendency to agree in many cases. But mostly this is
                    interesting and useful totally separate from his
                    politics, I think. <br>
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                    On Thursday, September 26, 2013, Jeff Aitken wrote:<br>
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                      <div>thanks Michael! </div>
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                      <div>It's unfortunate that I have a lingering
                        dislike for Mr. Gilder, who was famous for
                        awhile around 1981 when the Reagan
                        administration rolled out its economic agenda,
                        and his work was considered one of its
                        intellectual pillars.</div>
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                      <div>Twas a long time ago, and no doubt the man
                        remains a hard thinker and clear writer, perhaps
                        with more heart than I experienced back then.</div>
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                      <div>With that caveat, I'll dig into this when I
                        have a chance. Thanks for sharing.</div>
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                      <div>Jeff</div>
                      <div>San Francisco<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at
                        12:25 PM, Michael Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                      <p><font size="3" face="Calibri">Here's
                                          a long one, friends… But maybe
                                          an important one.</font></p>
                                      <p><font size="3" face="Calibri">What
                                          follows is an excerpt from a
                                          markets newsletter I've read
                                          for maybe 10 years by a
                                          financial expert and
                                          best-selling author Named John
                                          Mauldin.  He describes and
                                          then shares an article by a
                                          guy named George Gilder, Who
                                          seems to have been writing
                                          "important" books for at least
                                          a few decades.  </font></p>
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                    -- <br>
                    Michael Herman<br>
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