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    Harrison says:<br>
    "...<span
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      a “face off” between a well functioning self-organizing system and
      any process we might have designed to create the system, install
      the system, or enhance the system – the designed process doesn’t
      have a chance."<br>
      <br>
      Dan says:<br>
      Hell, yes!      <br>
      <br>
      To be 100% clear, Open Agile Adoption (OAA) favors an INVITE
      (which makes self-organizing simple) over a MANDATE (which makes
      self-organizing nearly impossible).<br>
      <br>
      It's literally "no contest". The invite is superior in every way.
      And by this I mean, efficient, useful, effective. Human! The
      "what" (in this case Agile) really is just a contextual detail.
      The "how" (that is, the human-centered and sincere invitation that
      OST represents) is the real name of the game. <br>
      <br>
      As a meeting format, Open Space is nothing without the invite (and
      in fact, is likely quite dead-on-arrival without it.)<br>
      <br>
      Further, and to Michael's point, OST is not a mere tool, it is a
      practice. And of exactly what type is this practice? <br>
      <br>
      My current belief is that certain aspects of spiritual life do
      manifest in private, org-specific Open Space events. I feel
      feelings of privilege and something sacred going on at some of
      these private OST events. And so I think I must now assert: I
      believe Open Space is at the core a spiritual practice. I have
      written about liminality and do think liminality is a kind of
      collectiive (not just individual) spiritual condition, that orgs
      do experience this condition together (often, as grief) and that
      Open Space does a wonderful job of creating a point at which
      things can tip from liminality and despair to some new order of
      things, and hope. <br>
      <br>
      Lastly, I must reiterate that in Open Agile Adoption, the goal is
      to institute a recurring, open, cultural event on the
      organization's calendar. The suggestion (not a mandate) in OAA is
      to schedule an Open Space event of at least 1 day in January and
      July. This idea is a page from the cultural playbook described in
      SPIRIT, which discusses the high cultural value of a recurring
      cultural holiday. Such holidays are anticipated by the group, and
      serve to remind members of what they value, and remind them about
      "the story", which is how we make sense of things in groups.<br>
      <br>
      And so, when Harrison says:<br>
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    <span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">"...So

        maybe the order of precedence should go the other way? Use Agile
        to introduce Open Space, and then abolish Agile. Or, if you like
        ... Self-Organization is the natural agility. It doesn’t get any
        better than that. "<br>
        <br>
        My reply is:<br>
        "Hell yes!"<br>
        <br>
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          <br>
          Dan<br>
          <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/13 9:31 PM, Michael Herman
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAD8j=QH98DEbqD5Q2WkRuRy2QR3ycctZwx092RfCAs8J5RG7+Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I learned this phrase in the context of meditation,
      Arno. I've heard meditation teachers say about meditation practice
      that if we just "do the practice" we'll get the results… usually
      this is in contrast to simply talking about the practice or
      listening to teachings. This is akin to saying "anyone with a good
      head and good heart can do open space…"  anyone who does the
      practice can get the same results that os teachers/practitioners,
      from harrison onward, have gotten.  Does this help?<span></span>
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        On Friday, September 27, 2013, Arno Baltin wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi!<br>
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              I like this conversation about what OS is. And this
              practice notion is a bit complicated. I as non Enlgish
              speaker I looked for the meanings of the word and got
              confused. Could you Michael say it in other words what you
              mean that OS is practice (first of all). Especially when I
              read "do the practice" I cant understand the meaning.<br>
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            Be well,<br>
            <br>
            Arno<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/25 Michael Herman <span
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                <div dir="ltr">When I hear folks simplifying open space
                  into a tool or technique, my usual response is to
                  point out that circle is a tool, bulletin board is a
                  tool, etc.  Open Space is a <i>practice</i>,
                  incorporating a number of these different tools.  And
                  hopefully, my use of them together is getting more and
                  more skillful over time.  To me, "practice" includes
                  the suggestion that we do it once, as best we can, and
                  then we try again, and again, learning and refining as
                  we go.  
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                  <div>My felt sense of this is a little different from
                    "values and principles" though I don't think calling
                    OS or agile or scrum that is incorrect.  For me the
                    difference is that I hold values and principles, but
                    practice is something that <i>holds me</i>.
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                    <div>I also like to suggest that open space is a
                      robust practice, a sufficient practice.
                       Everything that's needed is there in the basic
                      story and mechanisms.  We don't need to do
                      anything more, add in different things.  Just do
                      the practice and we get the experience, get the
                      learning, the performance, the self-organizing,
                      the breathing.</div>
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                    <div>Thanks for your story, Harold.</div>
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                    --<br>
                    <br>
                    Michael Herman<br>
                    Michael Herman Associates<br>
                    312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at
                        12:58 PM, Peggy Holman <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <div>Thanks for bringing your knowledgable
                              and eloquent perspective.  </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Great to see these two communities
                              working through an understanding of each
                              other.  With you and others as
                              translators, I think Agile is in good
                              hands.</div>
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                                      <div>On Sep 23, 2013, at 7:53 AM,
                                        Harold Shinsato <<a
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                                          <div>Harrison,<br>
                                            <br>
                                            About your statement "Open
                                            Space is a terrible way to
                                            introduce some new process,
                                            and especially to assure
                                            'buy in'".<br>
                                            <br>
                                            You're clearing going
                                            directly against the heart
                                            of what Dan is trying to
                                            promote. Maybe I invite
                                            disaster for myself by
                                            speaking an alternative view
                                            from what you are saying
                                            given your founding status
                                            of this community - but
                                            perhaps given my 12+ years
                                            working in the Agile space -
                                            I have something worthwhile
                                            to say.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Harrison, you've been
                                            opposed to calling "Open
                                            Space" a tool. And I hear
                                            Lisa Heft (the best Open
                                            Space trainer) talking about
                                            it being a tool all the
                                            time.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            I agree with both of you.
                                            Open Space is most
                                            emphatically *not* a tool at
                                            it's heart. It's a set of
                                            values and principles. But
                                            it is also definitely a
                                            tool. Or as Dan says, a
                                            'game'. A beautifully
                                            designed game.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Agile is most DEFINITELY not
                                            a process. It's a set of
                                            values and principles. You
                                            can see this in the <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://agilemanifesto.org/"
                                              target="_blank">Agile
                                              Manifesto</a> - especially
                                            the first item, we value
                                            Individuals and Interactions
                                            *over* Processes and Tools.
                                            Yes, the Agile community
                                            applies many very specific
                                            tools and processes. And
                                            very heated debates happen
                                            around the application (or
                                            misapplication) of those
                                            tools and processes, such as
                                            Scrum.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            But oddly - even Scrum isn't
                                            *Really* a tool or a
                                            process. At the heart of
                                            Scrum is also a set of
                                            principles and values. If
                                            you want to get a sense of
                                            this - go to the end of the
                                            first book on Scrum, by
                                            Schwaber & Beedle "Agile
                                            Software Development with
                                            Scrum" - where it lists the
                                            5 values of Scrum -
                                            Commitment, Focus, Openness,
                                            Respect & Courage. Or
                                            read Tobias Meyer's "The
                                            People's Scrum". Very
                                            powerful assertion and
                                            meditation on the core
                                            values and how to apply the
                                            processes to get <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Open Space has already been
                                            used with great success to
                                            introduce, promote and
                                            sustain Agile in the world
                                            through many uses of Open
                                            Space in conferences such as
                                            the AgileOpen, Coaching
                                            Camps, and Open Agile
                                            Adoption such as what Dan
                                            Mezick is explaining. From
                                            my vantage point, Open Space
                                            is critical for helping the
                                            values and principles to be
                                            successfully absorbed.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            From my vantage point - Open
                                            Space Technology's values
                                            and principles are eternal
                                            and aren't going away. The
                                            Universe won't suddenly stop
                                            self-organizing. If
                                            anything, we'll only get
                                            better at understanding and
                                            dancing with Order and
                                            Chaos. This dance, with the
                                            help of Open Space
                                            Technology the Game (or
                                            Tool) has changed my life
                                            and infused it with spirit.
                                            I'm eternally grateful to
                                            you, Harrison, to Lisa Heft,
                                            and to and this community.
                                            And maybe Open Space
                                            Technology the game or tool
                                            will pass away. The same
                                            goes for Agile values and
                                            principles. They're eternal.
                                            They're not going away. The
                                            Process will never be more
                                            important than the
                                            Individuals. The People are
                                            always more important than
                                            the Game.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            BUT - there are powerful
                                            forces behind trying to
                                            adopt agile as merely a tool
                                            or a process, because it's
                                            easier to understand. And
                                            that invites failure - and
                                            it's the exact kind of
                                            failure you're writing
                                            about, Harrison, about how
                                            our creations are
                                            "inevitably clunky." To
                                            succeed, any implementation
                                            of Agile or Scrum needs to
                                            be able to self-organize -
                                            "Inspect and Adapt" is one
                                            of the anthems of the agile
                                            and scrum communities. I
                                            hope that the Open Space
                                            community will step up and
                                            help the Agile community to
                                            do that.<br>
                                            <br>
                                                Thanks,<br>
                                                Harold<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            On 9/22/13 10:45 AM,
                                            Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Dan

                                                  wrote: “I've learned
                                                  that there are
                                                  actually more ways to
                                                  fail with Open Space
                                                  in Agile adoptions
                                                  than there are ways to
                                                  succeed. There are
                                                  many ways to stumble
                                                  when trying this.”</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Actually,

                                                  Dan – I am not at all
                                                  surprised. I learned a
                                                  long time ago that
                                                  Open Space is a
                                                  terrible way to
                                                  introduce some new
                                                  process, and
                                                  especially to assure
                                                  “buy in.” Typically,
                                                  problems arise because
                                                  folks take Open Space
                                                  seriously. Instead of
                                                  buying into the
                                                  proposed process, they
                                                  begin to invent their
                                                  own! Somewhere I wrote
                                                  that OS was a great
                                                  way to design a new
                                                  accounting system, but
                                                  a horrible way to
                                                  “implement” it.</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And

                                                  just to be
                                                  contrarian... I wonder
                                                  whether the failure is
                                                  a function of Open
                                                  Space or Agile (and/or
                                                  the SCRUM flavor of
                                                  Agile)? As I think we
                                                  have come to
                                                  understand, Open Space
                                                  is a total scam if
                                                  people mistake it for
                                                  some process we
                                                  invented or “do.” It
                                                  is simply an
                                                  invitation to be what
                                                  we always have been –
                                                  self organizing. The
                                                  process itself (SO)
                                                  has been around for
                                                  some time, and
                                                  apparently has done
                                                  quite well, witness
                                                  the fact that we,
                                                  along with all the
                                                  rest of the Cosmos are
                                                  here and seemingly
                                                  functional. In a “face
                                                  off” between a well
                                                  functioning
                                                  self-organizing system
                                                  and any process we
                                                  might have designed to
                                                  create the system,
                                                  install the system, or
                                                  enhance the system –
                                                  the designed process
                                                  doesn’t have a chance.
                                                  The reason is simple.
                                                  No matter how wise,
                                                  careful, diligent or
                                                  skillful we may be –
                                                  our creation is
                                                  inevitably clunky. We
                                                  may get the big blocks
                                                  right, even some of
                                                  the finer points, but
                                                  at the end of the day
                                                  we always miss the
                                                  nuances – and as
                                                  always, the devil is
                                                  in the details. Put
                                                  somewhat differently,
                                                  our designed processes
                                                  are always “averages”
                                                  of what we think the
                                                  process should look
                                                  like. And “averages”
                                                  do not exist anywhere
                                                  in nature. To push an
                                                  “average” on a natural
                                                  system is always to
                                                  make it function at
                                                  some sub-optimal
                                                  level, and usually to
                                                  kill it.</span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So

                                                  maybe the order of
                                                  precedence should go
                                                  the other way? Use
                                                  Agile to introduce
                                                  Open Space, and then
                                                  abolish Agile. Or, if
                                                  you like ...
                                                  Self-Organization is
                                                  the natural agility.
                                                  It doesn’t get any
                                                  better than that. Or
                                                  something</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Harrison

                                                    Owen</span></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">7808

                                                    River Falls Dr.</span></p>
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                                                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniel
                                                      Mezick<br>
                                                      <b>Sent:</b>
                                                      Thursday,
                                                      September 19, 2013
                                                      11:26 AM<br>
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                                                      <b>Subject:</b>
                                                      [OSList] Open
                                                      Space with Agile:
                                                      Failure patterns</span></p>
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                                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Greetings
                                                to you,<br>
                                                <br>
                                                In Paris this week at
                                                the Global Scrum
                                                Gathering I plan to
                                                issue certain warning
                                                about specific failure
                                                patterns I have
                                                experienced when working
                                                with Open Space inside
                                                Agile adoptions. I can
                                                tell you right now that
                                                Open Space by itself is
                                                not a panacea for the
                                                complex problems
                                                associated with Agile
                                                adoption. <br>
                                                <br>
                                                Agile is actually a
                                                cover story about the
                                                wider act of bringing
                                                culture change (a new
                                                and unfamiliar game) to
                                                an enterprise situation
                                                (the old story we all
                                                want to cling to). The
                                                SPIRIT book pretty much
                                                spells out the problem.
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                I've learned that there
                                                are actually more ways
                                                to fail with Open Space
                                                in Agile adoptions than
                                                there are ways to
                                                succeed. There are many
                                                ways to stumble when
                                                trying this. I'll be
                                                enumerating some of
                                                these subtle
                                                Agile-related pitfalls
                                                and traps in the Paris
                                                keynote on Tuesday, and
                                                in upcoming blog posts.
                                                Simply holding one or
                                                more canonical Open
                                                Space meetings (with
                                                full pre-planning and
                                                post processing) is not
                                                enough to neutralize the
                                                forces that oppose
                                                healthy and well Agile
                                                adoptions. The game
                                                mechanics, storytelling
                                                and
                                                passage-rite-structure
                                                elements must be present
                                                and robust for Open
                                                Space to be an effective
                                                tool in Agile adoptions.
                                                Open Space and these
                                                elements are composed in
                                                harmony with each other
                                                in the Open Agile
                                                Adoption technique.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                If you offer training in
                                                Open Space for
                                                Facilitators and/or
                                                Sponsors, I invite you
                                                to send me your links
                                                and I will make sure
                                                they are added to the
                                                list of resources I am
                                                beginning to compile at
                                                <a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com" target="_blank">OpenAgileAdoption.com</a>.
                                                I plan to list in the
                                                Paris slides some
                                                specific French-language
                                                OST course offerings
                                                from French-speaking
                                                instructors located in
                                                Europe, and Quebec.<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Kind Regards,<br>
                                                Dan</p>
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                                                  <br>
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                                                <p>Daniel Mezick,
                                                  President</p>
                                                <p>New Technology
                                                  Solutions Inc.</p>
                                                <p><a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%28203%29%20915%207248" value="+12039157248" target="_blank">(203)
                                                    915 7248</a> (cell)</p>
                                                <p><span><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/" target="_blank">Bio</a></span><span>.
                                                    <a
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href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/" target="_blank"><span>Blog</span></a>.
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/" target="_blank"><span>Twitter</span></a>.</span><span> </span></p>
                                                <p><span>Examine my new
                                                    book:</span><span> 
                                                  </span><span><a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/"
                                                      target="_blank">The
                                                      Culture Game </a></span><span>:
                                                    Tools for the Agile
                                                    Manager</span><span>.</span></p>
                                                <p>Explore Agile Team <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                    href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/"
                                                    target="_blank"><span>Training</span></a>
                                                  and <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/"
                                                    target="_blank"><span>Coaching.</span></a></p>
                                                <p>Explore the <a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/" target="_blank"><span>Agile
                                                      Boston </span></a>Community.<span> </span></p>
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