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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Artur – I remember that discussion very well. Indeed it was one of the seminal many that have enriched OSLIST over the years. I also recall a small chuckle when I encountered the word, “metanoia” – a word very central to Christian thought and usually translated “repentance.” But whether you understand “profound change,” “transformative change” – or “repentance” I think it pretty well comes out to the same thing. A realignment with the deep forces of reality, and/or a turning away from false options. So – from where I sit it is indeed an old discussion that never gets old. It just gets deeper. It will be fun to see where we end up this time???<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The interesting part of reading your questions of more than a decade ago is to notice how pertinent they still are, and simultaneously, how the passage of time has (in my view) provided a simple answer to each one: Yes. For example, even the most hardened skeptic would have to admit that the behaviors manifest in Open Space represent a radical change of direction from “Business as Usual” for that particular group. Massively dysfunctional organizations effectively communicate and work together, hostile parties, ordinarily given to shooting each other are seen to be hugging a kissing. Odd to say the least, and perhaps metanoia – definitely some new directions. How long the “change” lasts may be another question, but Rome was not built in a day. Or something. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But the passage of time has done something else, at least for me. The questions as posed presuppose that there is a definite process, defined by someone (presumably me), performed by a community of individuals in ways that are “correct” or not. I would certainly agree that at a superficial level, those presuppositions are valid, but if so, they create a degree of anomaly that is deliciously inviting. I say “delicious” because I truly love anomalies simply because they point the way to deep and interesting questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The anomalous lump appears for me in my extending experience of facilitating Open Space. The more I “do” the clearer it becomes that doing more is the wrong way to go. In fact the less I do, the better things get. Following this vector it appears that perfection performance for me as a facilitator would be to do absolutely nothing at all. Strange practice/process. 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World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> [OSList] Profound change (was: The Open Agile Adoption story)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear Michael:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Thanks for asking about what I mean by "profound change" and sorry for the delay in my answer.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Since I have joined the OSLIST (in 1998, I think) my main objective has always been to try to understand the<span class=apple-converted-space> <b>role of OST as a tool to facilitate profound changes</b> </span>in organizations, communities, societies, as well as in individuals.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>As we can talk about "root learning" versus "profound learning" (paradigm shift) we can also talk about change that only alters the symptoms or the accessories from change that profoundly affect the structures and mental models of the individual, the community, the organization or even the society at large.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>For many year I have used (and I still use) the Greek word “metanoia” to describe that type of change.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>If you make a search in the Archives of this list for "OST and metanoia" you will see a post of Tue Oct 9 2001 (which I repeat bellow, just for fun), where I have pointed to a post in another list (<a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html">http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html</a>) to define the concept of “metanoia” based on the Italian sociologist Alberoni and then asked four questions trying to relate “OST and Metanoia”. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>The thread had the participation of people like the late Laurel, Florian, Reinhardt, Meg Salter, Harrison, Chris Weaver - that commented parts of it - and only one post that tried to answer to all my 4 questions: a post from the late Fr. Brian Bainbridge (<i>Sun Nov 25</i>). Here is my old post that initiated that conversation. Enjoy.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><h1 style='background:white'><span style='color:blue'>OST and metanoia</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h1></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'>Artur F. Silva</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'> </span><span style='color:blue'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>artsilva</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia">at mail.eunet.pt </a></span></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:blue'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'><br><i>Tue Oct 9 15:34:32 PDT 2001</i></span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></a></span></div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><pre style='background:white;white-space:pre-wrap'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>Dear OS-practitioners:</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>As many of you know, I am discussing in another list the problem of</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>enhancing organizational learning, especially double loop learning and</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>metanoia.</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>I plan, in a near future, to present OST and discuss how it can improve</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>double loop learning (or metanoia).</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>In the last post to them I have presented Alberoni's conception of</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>metanoia. I am asking for those of you who care about the subject to</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>read that post and then answer, to the list or privately to me, to this</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>questions, using always the meaning that Alberoni gives to "metanoia":</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>1) From your experience with OST, do you think that OST is an important</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>way to enhance metanoiaic states in organizations and communities?</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>2) Do you think that some concepts current in the OST community may</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>facilitate this? and others may make it difficult? What concepts?</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>3) Do you think that the OS community qualifies in itself as a "birth stage"</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>(of a movement or of a Community of Practice, as Etienne Wenger defines</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>CoP's)?</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>4) If so, do you think that there is a risk that the community may disperse in different "sub-practices", and that can diminish the overall metanoic</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>potential of OST?</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>For those of you that want to help me in understanding this, the</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'>referred (and long) post can be found at:</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist%40lists.openspacetech.org?Subject=Re%3A%20OST%20and%20metanoia&In-Reply-To=%3CTUE.9.OCT.2001.233432.0100.OSLIST%40LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%3E" title="OST and metanoia"><span style='text-decoration:none'><u>http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html</u></span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='text-decoration:none'>Thank you very much to all that will accept the challenge</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='text-decoration:none'>Artur</span></a></span><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>---</span></a><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Best regards </span></a><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Artur</span></a><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.learning-org.com/01.10/0025.html"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>From:</span><span style='color:black;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none'> Michael M Pannwitz <<u><span style='color:blue'>mmpannwitz@gmail.com</span></u>><br></span><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>To:</span><span style='color:black;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none'> Artur Silva <<u><span style='color:blue'>arturfsilva@yahoo.com</span></u>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<u><span style='color:blue'>oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</span></u>> <br></span><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Sent:</span><span style='color:black;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none'> Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:34 PM<br></span><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'>Subject:</span><span style='color:black;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none'> Re: [OSList] The Open Agile Adoption story</span></a></span></b><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><br>Dear Artur,<br>tell me more about "profound changes"...<br>A couple of years ago, I had the privilege to facilitate an OST event <br>for an agile consulting company. They schemed on how to transform their <br>organisational life and process and structure in such a way that nobody <br>would have to quit the company again on account of an employee becoming <br>parent. Since they managed to invite and have attend partners and <br>children (including ex-employees) I knew the whole thing would be a <br>grand success. Its always been that way when I saw children attending an <br>OST event.<br>I have no idea what happened to their burning business issue. They never <br>told me which is probably a sign for them doing business as usual, <br>profoundly.<br><br>Wish you all the best in your journey... ever thought of beginning it <br>with an OST event?<br>Cheers<br>mmp<br><br>On 20.08.2013 16:21, Artur Silva wrote:<br>(...)</span></a><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>