<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Oh, never thought about that, Michael. Probably not!</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Artur</span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Artur Silva
<arturfsilva@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 9, 2013 2:11 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] Certification?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>Dear Artur,<br>are you certified to read all by yourself?<br>hugs<br>mmp<br><br>On 09.08.2013 13:27, Artur Silva wrote:<br>> Eva:<br>><br>> I understand what you are saying. But every point you have mentioned is<br>> very well explained in the User's Guide.<br>><br>> I know that there are people that say that they apply Open Space, and<br>> have never attended one event (not to mention a course) and have never<br>> read the book. But that is something one has to learn to live with.<br>><br>> In that respect, if I were a Christian, I would join the reformist<br>> church. I would not
believe in a Catholic hierarchy to explain me the<br>> Book (Bible); I would prefer to read it myself!<br>> Bye<br>> Artur<br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> *From:* Eva P Svensson <<a ymailto="mailto:eva@epshumaninvest.se" href="mailto:eva@epshumaninvest.se">eva@epshumaninvest.se</a>><br>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>> <<a ymailto="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2013 11:34 AM<br>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Certification?<br>><br>> Here it comes again :-)<br>> Of course you can never certify someone and by that promise that the<br>> person will behave in a conform way. But I must say that I sometimes<br>> have missed some sort of certificate to at least know that the<br>> OS-facilitator have gone
through some sort of training - not that that<br>> is a proof of success or anything but hopefully that person has been<br>> introduced to the essence of Open Space such as the marketplace, the<br>> principles, the law etc. That said is because I have sometimes got the<br>> reaction when I have talked about OST - "Oh that, we have tried open<br>> space and that was nothing for us" - and as I am a curious person of<br>> course I ask why, and when they start to explain how their open space<br>> experience was - I can say - "that was NOT open space". There have been<br>> cases where they had not had the freedom to choose topics, not have the<br>> freedom to use their feet and so on. And in my fantasy there will be<br>> less drifts from the original form with some kind of training followed<br>> by a certificate. And of course there is no proof that the certificate<br>> made the facilitator do it "the right way" we always
do it our ways, but<br>> still - there is some essences that needs to be to call it Open Space -<br>> at least for me.<br>> My 2 cents<br>> :o)<br>> Eva<br>><br>> Bästa hälsningar<br>> Eva P Svensson<br>> *EPS Human Invest AB*<br>> */Co owner Genuine Contact Group Inc/*<br>> */Medlem i Beyond Performance Group/*<br>> /"Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående<br>> företag och organisationer"/<br>> Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34 ONSALA<br>> Besöksadress; Norra Allégatan 8, Göteborg<br>> Tfn: 0300-615 05, Mobil; 0706- 89 85 50<br>> www.epshumaninvest.se <<a href="http://www.epshumaninvest.se/" target="_blank">http://www.epshumaninvest.se/</a>><br>> Skype: eva.p.svensson<br>> Facebook sida: EPS Human Invest AB<br>> twitter:@EvaPSvensson<br>><br>> */"Jag kan inte lära dig något. Allt jag kan göra är att ställa frågor<br>> till dig, och låta dig
själv finna svaren." Sokrates/*<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> 9 aug 2013 kl. 06.45 skrev Chris Weaver:<br>><br>>> Greetings All,<br>>><br>>> Ah, I can't resist jumping in to stir the pot. It is an honor to join<br>>> a thread peopled by so many folks whom I respect (and appreciate and<br>>> love) so much. I invite you to settle in for rather a long story,<br>>> which may, at some point, have something to do with "certification."<br>>><br>>> After learning of Open Space in Anne Stadler's kitchen, I walked<br>>> around as a newbie at the OSonOS in Monterrey (the one fifteen years<br>>> ago, from which Harrison was unexpectedly absent, due to a nasty flu,<br>>> I believe), with my jaw hanging open to meet so many bold and<br>>> brilliant facilitators (I remember especially Michael P, Alan Stewart,<br>>> Brian Bainbridge,
Roxy, and Birgitt Bolton) sharing stories that I<br>>> sweetly strove to wrap my head at least half-way around.<br>>><br>>> For a few years I engaged actively on the OSLIST as I began to<br>>> facilitate some OST meetings (without even "finishing the book," as I<br>>> recall) in the Seattle school where I worked as a teacher. In 1999 I<br>>> landed here in North Carolina, where I attended my first OST workshop<br>>> as part of the Genuine Contact Program with Birgitt (Bolton) Williams<br>>> who had recently landed a few hours away.<br>>><br>>> Now I will say that I have an assumption only that at around that time<br>>> there was something of a "falling out" between Birgitt and her work<br>>> and the work of some other OS facilitators. I do not know, nor need<br>>> to know, the details. But I do know that there are some points of<br>>> practice that have
generated some heated passion in the community and<br>>> that I think are worthy of putting on the storytelling table. (I know<br>>> that there is not supposed to be a table, but I suddenly imagine<br>>> myself with Jeff, Chris, Peggy, Harrison, Michael in a pub somewhere<br>>> with a rough wooden table, on which I am happily uncorking a bottle of<br>>> pinot noir.)<br>>><br>>> When I completed the Genuine Contact "Working with OST" workshop, I<br>>> received a certificate, but not a certification. (The distinction is<br>>> important because there was no intention on the workshop leader's part<br>>> to evaluate my "competence" in any way.) Based on my participation in<br>>> the four-day experience, I could, if I chose, refer to myself as an<br>>> authorized "Genuine Contact professional." The workshop included an<br>>> exploration of the form &
essence of OST, as gifted so effectively in<br>>> Harrison's /User's Guide. /The workshop also shared some suggested<br>>> approaches and tools for working in depth with the sponsor of an OST<br>>> meeting (usually a leadership team within an organization), both prior<br>>> to and after the OST event. My own understanding is that, by<br>>> referring to myself as a GC professional if I chose, I would be<br>>> sharing the simple message that I had had exposure to the approach of<br>>> using OST that included these pre- and post-OST meeting practices and<br>>> tools. The choice of whether and how to apply these practices and<br>>> tools was up to me.<br>>><br>>> So that is the part that relates to this thread topic of<br>>> certification. As a practitioner, I honor the open-source nature of<br>>> OST as Harrison's "discovery" and gift to the world. I refer
people<br>>> to the /User's Guide/ (and also the /Non-User's Guide /and other<br>>> community resources) frequently.<br>>><br>>> As an aside, I continued in the years that followed to participate in<br>>> workshops on other methodologies that are shared through the Genuine<br>>> Contact Program (most notably /Whole Person Process Facilitation/,<br>>> which I use very often). I collaborated with my Genuine Contact<br>>> colleagues around the world in developing the minimal appropriate<br>>> structure for our international community. I participated in many<br>>> mentoring circles, completed the Train the Trainer workshop, and<br>>> became one of the 43 "co-owners" of the program. I also shifted my<br>>> virtual community participation to the GC List, and dropped off of the<br>>> OSLIST for a number of years. (I am enjoying being
back.)<br>>><br>>> So here, the plot thickens :-). One of the practices included in the<br>>> GC "Working with OST" workshop is the use of...the "givens." So,<br>>> lubricated with wine, I am going to place the notion of givens on the<br>>> wooden storytelling table for our enjoyment. (This is worthy of its<br>>> own thread, of course, but I'll just keep going here.)<br>>><br>>> I have only infrequently worked as an external consultant/facilitator.<br>>> Most of my work with OST has been within schools and community<br>>> organizations. Over the years, I have come to value highly the<br>>> practices I learned in the GCP of working with the sponsor prior to<br>>> and after an OST (and I know that among other OST facilitators, pre-<br>>> and post- meetings such as these are skillfully used and valued).<br>>><br>>> In my experience, the
purpose of careful preparation with the<br>>> sponsoring team is to assist them in considering the state of their<br>>> organization. What is the story-line that has brought them to<br>>> considering an OST meeting? What's happening in terms of the grief<br>>> cycle within their organization? What (deeply now) is the /purpose/<br>>> of the meeting? What (deeply now) is the /context? /Basically, I ask<br>>> the questions, and the team has the conversations. All this I<br>>> explicitly place in the reality that when you sponsor an OST, there is<br>>> not, nor should there be, any turning back.<br>>><br>>> I use the givens as an essential tool in this process. I draw a<br>>> circle on a flip chart and say, If this circle represents the open<br>>> space, what are the non-negotiables that form the parameters of the<br>>> open
space?<br>>><br>>> In the past, there have been passionate objections to this practice on<br>>> this list, based, I think, on the belief that to establish givens is<br>>> to close the space before it is even opened. My long-haul experience<br>>> within organizations has taught me something different.<br>>><br>>> What happens when I ask what the non-negotiables are is that a bunch<br>>> of stuff goes up on the flip chart. Then, I probe each one, and ask,<br>>> "Is this REALLY a given at this time for this meeting?" The fifteen<br>>> givens get whittled down to twelve, and then eight, and then maybe<br>>> five (ish). As you can imagine, the level of trust that<br>>> organizational leaders have in the people plays in heavily. I let it<br>>> be. I cannot make them trust more; I can only model trust, and hold<br>>> space for
trust.<br>>><br>>> But I also find that the few givens that remain are, every time, very<br>>> important and meaningful. Some examples: Perhaps the organizational<br>>> purpose is a given, and perhaps there is value in re-sharing the<br>>> organizational purpose at the start of the OST. Perhaps there has<br>>> been a year of good work by a sub-group within the organization that<br>>> has culminated in a policy that not everyone attending the OST is<br>>> aware of, and that policy is a given. Perhaps a "law of the land"<br>>> that administrators, but not all participants, know about is a given.<br>>> Perhaps it is a given that the organization will stay within a<br>>> certain budget, and any ideas generated beyond the budget will have to<br>>> include the funding source to support them.<br>>><br>>> Yes, the givens are shared with the group at
the start of the OST. In<br>>> my experience, this does not close the space, but rather it opens the<br>>> space clearly and honestly. More importantly, it is a tool for<br>>> building trust. When participants hear their formal organizational<br>>> leaders share, clearly and transparently, what the givens are, they<br>>> are more trusting that their own ideas will be honored after the<br>>> meeting and not squelched.<br>>><br>>> And this is what happens. Using givens is a way to profoundly<br>>> mitigate the phenomenon, with which any seasoned OST facilitator is<br>>> familiar, of leadership freaking out and clamping down on the results<br>>> of an OST. The practice does not (thankfully) prevent the productive<br>>> chaos and re-framing that happens after the meeting, but it greatly<br>>> reduces the phenomenon of /reactionary fear/ on the part of
formal<br>>> leadership. The result is that leadership is more inclined to sponsor<br>>> another OST soon, and indeed to invite other groups withing the<br>>> organization to utilize OST themselves.<br>>><br>>> Perhaps because I have worked inside organizations for many years, I<br>>> have a deep respect for the challenges that formal leaders face.<br>>> Perhaps an organization is possible without any formal leaders, but I<br>>> have not yet encountered this. In the school where I work, there is a<br>>> fragile and indeed even tender respect for our formal leaders whose<br>>> responsibility it is to hold the space for the organization in the<br>>> community. When leadership is in its integrity, followership is a<br>>> natural and beautiful thing.<br>>><br>>> Okay, I will pour the last of the bottle into all the glasses. Sadly,<br>>> I
won't hear your fine words until tomorrow, but so it is, according<br>>> to the odd and illusory parameters of space & time.<br>>><br>>> Take Care, with Love,<br>>> Chris<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Donna Read<br>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:donna.read@managing4wellness.org" href="mailto:donna.read@managing4wellness.org">donna.read@managing4wellness.org</a><br>>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:donna.read@managing4wellness.org" href="mailto:donna.read@managing4wellness.org">donna.read@managing4wellness.org</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Amen to that, Harrison! Blessings, Donna<br>>><br>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>><br>>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 17:36, "Harrison Owen" <<a ymailto="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a><br>>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Jeff – as a sometime perpetrator and totally confused<br>>>> (certifiable) I can attest that if at any point I were to<br>>>> intimate that I actually knew what I was doing, that would be a<br>>>> significant error. However I feel quite comfortable in my<br>>>> not-knowing if only because the “process” (OST) is not something<br>>>> I “do.” Under the best of circumstances my contribution is to<br>>>> invite folks to do what they already know how to do – to be what<br>>>> they already are. It always works, and it works even better
when<br>>>> I get out of the way. ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Harrison____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Harrison Owen____<br>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.____<br>>>> Potomac, MD 20854____<br>>>> USA____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)____<br>>>> Camden, Maine 04843____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Phone 301-365-2093____<br>>>> (summer) 207-763-3261____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> www.openspaceworld.com <<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/</a>> ____<br>>>> www.ho-image.com <<a href="http://www.ho-image.com%20/"
target="_blank">http://www.ho-image.com%20/</a>> (Personal Website)____<br>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives<br>>>> of OSLIST Go<br>>>> to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org____" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org____</a><br>>>> __ __<br>>>> *From:*<a ymailto="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>>>> [mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org"
href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] *On Behalf Of<br>>>> *Jeff Aitken<br>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 7:17 PM<br>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Certification?____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> having been trained by the motley lot who dreamed up this stuff,<br>>>> i can attest that even that great privilege does not mean that i<br>>>> know much or should be let near the folks in your organization.____<br>>>> ____<br>>>> jeff.____<br>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Peggy Holman<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com"
href="mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com">peggy@peggyholman.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com" href="mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com">peggy@peggyholman.com</a>>> wrote:____<br>>>> To be certified confused…where do I sign up? ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Chris -- thanks for your decidedly clear and unconfused comments<br>>>> on certification. ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> I seem to recall in some past conversation that rather than<br>>>> certification, lineage is alternative to the client conundrum of<br>>>> who am I hiring? To be trained by the creator, or by someone who<br>>>> trained with creator, on down the line seems to have worked for a<br>>>> variety of practice traditions through the
ages.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Still no guarantee, as Chris noted below.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> appreciatively,____<br>>>> Peggy ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> On Aug 8, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Chris Corrigan<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com" href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com" href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a>>> wrote:____<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ____<br>>>> Ohh I love this topic too, because as we go on
and on it becomes<br>>>> clearer and clearer to me that Harrison's original idea (which<br>>>> predated Open Source) was sheer genius. There is an expression<br>>>> in english: "Closing the barn doors after the horse has left."<br>>>> It's too late to certify people in Open Space Technology, and<br>>>> thank God! ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> You simply cannot certify people as a way to protect the brand<br>>>> and the reason is simple.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Certification is based on an industrial quality assurance model<br>>>> In other words, every product leaving the factory is guaranteed<br>>>> to work the way we say it is going to work. If it doesn't
you<br>>>> can have your money back and we'll give you a new one that works.<br>>>> Every product can be tested before it leaves the factory to be<br>>>> sure it works reliably,____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> You simply cannot do that with facilitators. No amount of<br>>>> certification will guarantee that a client will get what they<br>>>> want every single time. And a facilitator taking a single<br>>>> training in Open Space or some other method will by definition<br>>>> NOT be perfect leaving the factory. You need to develop a<br>>>> practice, and even still there are contexts and situations that<br>>>> will challenge and surprise you. "Be Prepared to Be
Surprised"<br>>>> is the only certification I can reliably give to anyone that has<br>>>> trained with me. We are not engineers, architects or doctors.<br>>>> We are people whose skill is in responding well to myriad and<br>>>> changing contexts.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> The International Association of Facilitators went down this<br>>>> route. I have seen some horrible facilitation done by people who<br>>>> are certified by the IAF. So much so that I have no faith in<br>>>> that certification as standing for anything. It is a worthy idea<br>>>> but it simply cannot be implemented.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Open Space is a brand like brainstorming is a
brand, like using<br>>>> markers and flipcharts is a brand, like parliamentary procedure<br>>>> is a brand. In a few more decades, with any luck, the world will<br>>>> have forgotten where it all came from and it will just become a<br>>>> basic operating system of groups. In the last 10 years that<br>>>> prospect has really come on as people have stolen, mashed up,<br>>>> mixed together, modified and redesigned Open Space Technology.<br>>>> Participatory process is becoming an acceptable way of doing<br>>>> things, and will only become more so. Most conference goers for<br>>>> example are now able to report on conference evaluations that<br>>>> they would have rather had a world cafe or an Open Space
than a<br>>>> keynote address. I see it all the time. There is a fluency in<br>>>> the world with this method and others.____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> I fundamentally distrust anyone who makes a concerted effort to<br>>>> certify Open Space. If Harrison Owen, the guy that put it all<br>>>> down on paper, refuses to do it for excellent reasons, then I<br>>>> wonder what gives anyone else the right to do it. ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> And for me that is a terrific example of how to steward something<br>>>> that really has an impact in the world. Offer it up and let it<br>>>> go and only defend it from those that would try to own it.<br>>>> Thankfully Open Space
Technology I think is at a place in the<br>>>> world where it defies ownership. Anyone who tries it will simply<br>>>> be laughed off the stage. ____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> Chris____<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> __ __<br>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Kári Gunnarsson<br>>>> <<a ymailto="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is" href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is" href="mailto:kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is">kari.gunnarsson@simnet.is</a>>><br>>>> wrote:____<br>>>> I love the Certification dialogue and I think that the recurrence of<br>>>> the dialogue is necessary. As I have looked
around of things that<br>>>> trace there roots to open space or give the impression to be similar<br>>>> is some way. Some of these processes have the Certification hierarchy<br>>>> protecting the Quality of the Brand and the revenues steaming<br>>>> from the<br>>>> property that the brand name is.<br>>>><br>>>> The hierarchy of the Certification process associated with Brand<br>>>> names<br>>>> is a way to close space and create tension witch in turn will<br>>>> fuel the<br>>>> flow of cash from the people that can pay, excluding the people that<br>>>> can not. It is an exercise in creating a closed system to fuel a<br>>>> business plan. And naturally, any start up
consultancy offering some<br>>>> tools will need some flow of cash to pay the phone bill.<br>>>><br>>>> When I was at Wosonon in Berlin back in 2010, I head one participant<br>>>> saying. "You always have the clients that you deserve".<br>>>><br>>>> By knowing that the space for clients is well open and the law of<br>>>> mobility is active from them is perhaps a little scary. This<br>>>> scare can<br>>>> be remedied by letting go of the outcome and commit time to<br>>>> prepare to<br>>>> be of more benefit for my future clients.<br>>>><br>>>> Here I have opened up many lines of thoughts that stay with me when I<br>>>> think about this topic. What I would like to have written
down is<br>>>> some<br>>>> sort of vision on how to go about using the open space as a central<br>>>> idea and core philosophy in a practise.<br>>>><br>>>> On Certification, my vote would go for "no central<br>>>> Certification", but<br>>>> I don't mind that various offspring's of Open Space go ahead and<br>>>> create there own brand name with the associated cash flow headaches<br>>>> and salaried sales staff of Certification trainings in there bid to<br>>>> get a bought with a handsome cash out from lager companies.<br>>>><br>>>> That said, I would like to see more people get interested in the<br>>>> "boring" methought of meeting, working and begin together called
open<br>>>> space.<br>>>><br>>>> By the way, I am bored to tears by people hearing about open<br>>>> space and<br>>>> begin pissed off by the way open office layout (also called open<br>>>> space<br>>>> in my country) has been ruining there work experiences.<br>>>><br>>>> This is starting to be a long rant, Ill stop now.<br>>>><br>>>> With the breeze from Iceland<br>>>> Kári____<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> On 8 August 2013 14:50, Harrison Owen <<a ymailto="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>>
wrote:<br>>>> > Certification (whatever that might mean) seems to be a<br>>>> perennial topic. I<br>>>> > suppose that is understandable, but for myself it is a horrible<br>>>> idea. My<br>>>> > reasons are several. First of all it is too much work. The<br>>>> thought of<br>>>> > developing the criteria, programs, and even worse, “protecting<br>>>> the brand” is<br>>>> > totally exhausting. We’d have to have certifiers to certify the<br>>>> certifiers<br>>>> > and so on ad infinitum. Second reason – Open Space seems to be<br>>>> taking care<br>>>> > of itself. When folks come on with “A little Open Space,”
“Sort<br>>>> of Open<br>>>> > Space,” “Modified Open Space,” ... the participants (increasingly)<br>>>> > understand that they aren’t getting the genuine article—and say<br>>>> so. I recall<br>>>> > one instance where a large gentleman stood up in the middle of<br>>>> the “program”<br>>>> > and loudly proclaimed, “This sure ain’t Open Space! I’m out of<br>>>> here.” And he<br>>>> > walked. I guess you could call that “Market Certification.”<br>>>> Best of all ---<br>>>> > it works all by itself. One more thing not to do!!<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>>
> Harrison<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> > Harrison Owen<br>>>> ><br>>>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Potomac, MD 20854<br>>>> ><br>>>> > USA<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<br>>>> ><br>>>> > Camden, Maine 04843<br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> ><br>>>> > Phone 301-365-2093<br>>>> ><br>>>> > (summer) 207-763-3261<br>>>>
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