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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Wonderful Peggy, thanks for sharing!<br>JL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>En nombre de </b>Peggy Holman<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 31 de julio de 2013 13:40<br><b>Para:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [OSList] Do we really need chairs in Open Space?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Anne Stadler I did an Open Space years ago with a buddhist community near San Diego, California. We had about 120 people of all ages, from 8 to 80's. The primary form of seating were floor pillows. For the elderly, we had a handful of chairs that moved with them, carried by the young people to breakout spaces as needed. In the circle, the chairs started in a back row on the first morning. By the end of the second day, they were intermingled with the cushions.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The other fun thing that happened was that an alter, which started outside the circle, was also integrated into the circle by the end of the gathering.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peggy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>_________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Peggy Holman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:peggy@peggyholman.com">peggy@peggyholman.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Twitter: @peggyholman<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>15347 SE 49th Place<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Bellevue, WA 98006<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>425-746-6274<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.peggyholman.com">www.peggyholman.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.org">www.journalismthatmatters.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Enjoy the award winning </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://peggyholman.com/papers/engaging-emergence/">Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <br>"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become <br>the fire".<br> -- Drew Dellinger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Steve <<a href="mailto:scochran305@gmail.com">scochran305@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Space precluded chairs when opening space for 200 'Living Institution' directors (zoos, botanic gardens, aquaria, etc. and it just added to the energy and desire to get going!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best to All - Steve Cochran,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Asheville NC<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <<a href="mailto:adriana@diazberrio.com">adriana@diazberrio.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear Pablo <br>I think that what is really necessary is the circles not the chairs, two different things...of course people get tired if they cant sit for a certain time...but yes it is possible to be creative, it depends where it does take place... and how long it is.<br>I think thato if some chair are available but nor for everybody they shuld be shared in a rotative way...<br>Eleder Bum sended me information about how bad for our health it is to be sitting for so many hours...I think he has experience doing some OS without chairs<br>Adriana <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2013/7/31 Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just for the record... when Michael Pannwitz and I hosted 2108 German Psychiatrist in a circus tent – there wasn’t a chair in sight. We used the little cushions that you find at sports events. Seemed to work, and when the breakout groups formed everybody just carried their cushion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Camden, Maine 04843</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone <a href="tel:301-365-2093" target="_blank">301-365-2093</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(summer) <a href="tel:207-763-3261" target="_blank">207-763-3261</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ho-image.com%20/" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pablo Villoch<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>; Agustin Villena<br><b>Subject:</b> [OSList] Do we really need chairs in Open Space?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Dearest OS community,<o:p></o:p></p><p>I have been asked to co-host an Open Space next week where Chilean civil society and NGOs will propose ideas to enrich the political programs for the upcoming elections.<o:p></o:p></p><p>An unknown number of people could come. Organizers estimate around 300-500.<br>The venue is big enough.<br>The umbrella question is being destiled and refined.<o:p></o:p></p><p>In the organizing committee there is an argument about the convenience of using chairs.<br>Some people feel attached to the almost untouchable sacred geometry of the circle of chairs.<br>I personally believe that chairs are not an essential element of OST, while people can self-organize and decide if they prefer to talk standing up, sit on the ground...or even talk while talking.<o:p></o:p></p><p>That is why I take the courage to ask for help to the collective wisdom present in this OS community.<o:p></o:p></p><p>What successful stories can you share of opening space without chairs?<o:p></o:p></p><p>What are the pros and cons of not using chairs in an Open Space?<o:p></o:p></p><p>In what ways can (un)availability of chairs be a barrier or opportunity to unleash collective wisdom through self organization?<o:p></o:p></p><p>mountains of Love from the cold foggy Chilean winter.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Pablo<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>El 29/07/2013 16:07, <<a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Send OSList mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. OS hotline Invite! Tomorrow, Tues, July 30th 12pm EDT<br> (Tricia Chirumbole)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:16:31 -0400<br>From: Tricia Chirumbole <<a href="mailto:tricia@investorswithoutborders.net" target="_blank">tricia@investorswithoutborders.net</a>><br>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list<br> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>Subject: [OSList] OS hotline Invite! Tomorrow, Tues, July 30th 12pm<br> EDT<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAGT+W5P9KtveX9=<a href="mailto:pcpbykWqsvBCdONeQFCoNxy3bF55pyjfPrQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">pcpbykWqsvBCdONeQFCoNxy3bF55pyjfPrQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hello again OSers,<br><br>You are cordially invited to join in on an OS hotline skype, scheduled for<br>tomorrow, Tuesday, July 30th at 12pm EDT.<br><br>Please sign up here!: OS hotline<br>marketplace<<a href="https://docs.google.com/a/investorswithoutborders.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsXdTUUjiQHOdEJYUXF1ejY0TnAtd2I5RE05YWZJUUE&usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/a/investorswithoutborders.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsXdTUUjiQHOdEJYUXF1ejY0TnAtd2I5RE05YWZJUUE&usp=sharing</a>><br><br>Feel free to invite anyone in your life to the skype and share the above<br>link.<br><br>ALSO, the sheet is an open marketplace for you to add in a conversation<br>that suits your schedule and invite the group :)<br><br>Notes from previous skypes coming soon!<br><br>--<br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>US: <a href="tel:%2B1-571-232-0942" target="_blank">+1-571-232-0942</a><br>Skype: tricia.chirumbole<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130729/5789a87e/attachment.html" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130729/5789a87e/attachment.html</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br><br><br>End of OSList Digest, Vol 29, Issue 25<br>**************************************<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br><br>Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA<br>(514) 739 2268<br><a href="http://www.diazberrio.com/" target="_blank">www.diazberrio.com</a><br> <img border=0 width=160 height=42 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.diazberrio.com/images/sampledata/fruitshop/logo.jpg"><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Se certificó que el correo no contiene virus.<br>Comprobada por AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.es">www.avg.es</a><br>Versión: 2013.0.2904 / Base de datos de virus: 3209/6537 - Fecha de la versión: 30/07/2013<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>