<div dir="ltr">hi all! <div><br></div><div>Following is a rather lengthy set of notes detailing the past 2 Village Care conversations...whew! </div><div><br></div><div>As before, the notes were processed very little and are likely to include mistakes and omissions :)</div>
<div><br></div><div><p class=""><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:110%">Village
Care chat 3</span></b></p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class="">Participants: Skye, David, Suzanne, Pernilla, Tricia, Marie
Ann, Linda Stevenson, Paul Levy</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye has talked with David 1:1 and asked him, “What
does he want out of this?” [skype discussions, interactions]</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David’s response: He likes metaphysical
discussions, but he loves action. <b>What’s
next? How do we go global? </b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David will connect Tricia with the Village Care
leader in Nigeria for connecting her Ghanaian friends – he covers Ghana, Togo,
Benin, Cameroon….</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Suzanne: Introduces how she is passionate about <b>unleashing leadership</b> at any level and
that our North American model formed in the <b>Industrial Age, hierarchies, </b>etc., is <b>not working!</b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>She has been <b>working with Millennials</b> in the realm of unleashing leadership. She
feels we are at a <b>crossroads</b>, not
just for poor communities, but for the “wasteland” of the young generation.
They have <b>vast potential, but also vast
college debt</b>. She wants to unleash their leadership so that they can unleash
that of others!<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>She wants us all to <b>come to Florida</b> [for the WOSONOS in case you weren’t sure!], so we
can respond to the prompt: The world is waiting!!There is much ready to emerge,
are we ready? <b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Paul: He is inspired by the discussion David gave
of the respect for elders in the decision making of African villages. <b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>What can we learn about the elder system in
business and corporate settings? <b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>He sees commonalities among healthy communities.
<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Either Paul or David suggests, “that no company
is healthy for more than 1 or 2 years at a time” [then they need to reassess,
refresh, regroup]<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David shares that in his experience leaders tend
to be buried in companies and are not necessarily the nominal leaders – he can
usually “<b>feel the rhythm” in a business</b>
and identify the true leaders, as well as feel if there “spirit” is “right” or “wrong”.
<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David mentions how <b>Village Care</b> is supported by him and 3 friends with <b>no outside support.</b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>He was close to spreading the work further, but
ran out of money, time, and energy. <b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Paul: <b>applying
the Village care principles to the corporate world: </b>In regards to the
importance of using only African facilitators for the village care work, why
don’t we find people in organizations , homegrown people, to run the circle?<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David replies that he doesn’t even do the intro
in his programs<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye asks if he can <b>identify characteristics of a good facilitator</b>?<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David says he is not sure how he does it, he
just knows<b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Trying to make all of the program “Dumb ass
simple” <span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span>
so anyone can use it. <b></b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Pernilla suggests that it may depend on the question.
In a conflict situation, it may help to have an external person, whereas for a “building”
focused initiative, internal may make sense.</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Paul shares that one time on a project in
Eastern Europe, he did not feel right opening the circle, so he asked someone
else to do it, [someone internal or local I am guessing] and it
worked!...Another time, they requested the “Englishman”, so he did the opening.
</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Pernilla opens discussion about the difficult of
applying things at a <b>global level. </b>In
relation to the complexity and varying <b>relationships
between governments and people</b>.</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>She adds that in Denmark, the citizens have a “graceful
view of government”</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Some Americans on the call are confounded by
this concept :o</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>The Denmark States’ relationship with the
individual is to protect them from the family/clan [demands I guess] – this is
also intriguing to a few of the Americans! </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye proposes that the<b> key to a revolution is 1) Hope; 2) Seeing Progress</b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Discussion about whether or not to <b>use social media and the web</b> for
sharing ideas or how to. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Paul offers that there are comparable web services
“behind the firewall” that do not have the commercial distractions and ties of
those such as twitter. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>More on this Paul? </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Discussion on how/if to open up the discussion
to everyone interested in the spirit of OS or not.</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Concern presented that the discussion/group may get
too large to manage effectively. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Suzanne suggests some tools she was introduced
to by Ben Roberts of Dialogue and Deliberation that can be used to break groups
into smaller groups [I think this applies to skype discussions, but not sure!]</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Seems to be consensus that this approach sounds
reasonable</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"> </p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class=""><b><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:110%">Village
Care chat 4</span></b></p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class="">Participants: Skye, David Gwenlinkel, Tricia, Linda
Stevenson, Denyse (David’s colleague/acquaintance)</p>
<p class=""> </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye: Interested in the intersection among OS,
Village Care model, and her work with autognomics –</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>possibility of identifying <b>Universal Principles</b>?</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Seems to include the existence of “self agency”
or <b>personal agency</b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span><b>Coherence
</b>seems to be another</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Looking at the “why” behind processes that work</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Applying these concepts to <b>breaking cycles of poverty</b></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Notes that the rate of change is happening at a
pace in recent history that allows us to <b>observe
processes</b>, not just outcomes, as well as the <b>evolution of process</b>. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Inspecting the phenomena consistent across living
systems can aid in a revolutionary change in the way we think [about our world
and place in it]</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>This way of thinking is in contrast to the
predominant modern Western mode of <b>thinking
that is focused on things, fixed objects,</b> and the manipulation of these
things. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.75in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>We think we can control and predict based on our
understanding of this, but even these seemingly discrete and “fixed” objects
have a history and even a personal agency that makes our ability to control and
predict their behavior impossible. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David: requests Skye’s <b>definition of self agency</b>. He is currently pondering the concept of
language to use and how to agree on this in respect to his work and in respect
to his second book, which is almost finished. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>His language is defined around his OS work in
Africa </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Notes that funders still like the terms, “capacity
building” and “sustainability”, but these approaches are not working and he
wants to <b>define what his network does</b>
as something different. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye offers that personal agency can be defined
in a number of ways. Provides the links:</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Definition
of Personal Agency: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_agency">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sense_of_agency</a>
</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Common definition: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_</a></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Notes that personal agency needs to begin very
early on and that we tend to interrupt this process from the start by interrupting
the natural process of birth [not sure what birthing practices are meant here…anyone
know about lotus births? Pretty cool <span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span>))</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David: Reintroduces his self-query, <b>“what is the appropriate level of follow-up?”
</b>to provide to the villages that he works with. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>He has repeatedly seen communities fall back
into their hierarchical tendencies of putting chairs in rows, etc, but that
does not necessarily stop the process – he wonders if they would do even better
if they maintained the more open practices. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>David also wonders <b>how you can let go</b> [I believe in terms of opening up his Village Care
process for use by a broader group or completely public use] <b>while still</b> <b>maintaining the claims</b> that they currently make [assuming this
means that the outcomes and success observed can still be presented as results
that can be expected by users of the process]</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Tricia’s thoughts on this are that you cannot
have both in full expression/pure form – both the opening and the assurance of “success”;
adaptations will be made – some better and some worse – but you can mitigate
the bastardization and/or improve chances of “quality/accurate” transmission. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Harkening back to the question about follow up:
The successes and attrition will vary –all ideas and methods introduced to the
world get absorbed and applied incrementally and in patterns that are not easy
to observe and perhaps impossible to predict. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Any idea, practice, behavioral tendency, or
cultural norm is more likely to grow to a critical mass if allowed the ability
for it to be fully open and spread virally with a likely incidence that at some
points it will be considered “bastardized” or completely separate from the
original intent or core philosophical underpinnings by some.</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>That is not to say it is still not a worthy
endeavor to provide education, support, and advocacy for the principles and
practices that you find to be valuable. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span style="font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>In my own experience, people and groups absorb and
incorporate ideas into their world in their own time, when it is ripe for them.
It is challenging to observe when something is having an impression, and likely
impossible and not worth the effort to attempt to predict or manage what is
having an impression and if/when/how it will be incorporated ….That can probably
all be said in a nice one-liner…like, “just let go” <span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span>))</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>Skye: Back to Universal Principles and <b>coherence and effective action. </b>Queries,
how do we figure out what you do each day? Something has been effective in your
past and then get to choose what you do with it. The development of values and
valuing occurs in this manner. </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>References a <b>“Breaking the Cycle of Poverty” Program in Mexico </b>that is
redefining personal agency and empowerment and has been very effective.</p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span>I believe it is this project – book on Amazon,
but couldn’t locate link for program: </p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">“Many international development efforts
have been limited because they are elaborated as exclusively economic projects.
Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen argues, however, that combating poverty requires
expanding individual freedoms and capabilities, in place of bolstering only
macroeconomic growth. Based on the work of IMIFAP (The Mexican Institute of
Family and Population Research) in Mexico and Latin America, this book seeks to
transform Sen’s philosophical approach into an operative model for sustainable
development through its Framework for Enabling Empowerment (FrEE).<span class="">”</span></span><span class=""></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Linda:
States that she can hear Harrison’s voice (creepy!): <b>Don’t work too hard</b> [this discussion is not listed in perfect
chronological order, so not sure what this input is inspired by, sorry!].</span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">The power
of OS is the power of self-organization. Reminded about the concept of a <b>“nexus of caring” </b>Opening the space for
the personal caring to flourish. What do you care about genuinely? It starts to
reveal itself. It is because this is who we are – <b>we already know how to do this – we just need the invitation. </b>We
don’t want to fall back into a piecemeal approach.</span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">She
repeatedly runs into challenges with people she works with in corporations who
want results and have no experience that this can work – they are tied into
hierarchies. </span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Recounts
the message from [I think a group of <b>young
people</b>] at the World Economic Forum in Davos in 2010 or 2011. Paraphrased: <i>They are connected so effectively that <b>they do not need hierarchies and do not
need to fail. </b>They need everyone’s support and are willing to learn from
others.”</i></span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Notes
that it is <b>the</b> <b>aggregate that self organizes. </b></span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><b><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Innovation gathering proposal: </span></b></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Linda and Suzanne are interested in bringing
together 100 people in a room – both young and old – for collaboration and
innovation “beyond your wildest dreams” </span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.25in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:Symbol">·<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Skye poses
the question: What can we do next? What does everybody want to do? – she would
like to explore how her work fits in, but is not sure how it is useful. </span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">David
responds that he is not sure that “we need to
be in a big hurry…village care is closer to a place where it can be used
anytime/anywhere”. Adds that while information is copyrighted, it is the kind
of copyright that he wants to be used</span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Tricia
is interested in discussing mechanisms for expanding/opening up village care;
exploring the combination of village care with other approaches/philosophies
such as Skye’s work – even making it open source; and experimenting herself
with applying the model to communities. </span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:0.75in"><span class=""><span style="font-family:'Courier New'">o<span style="font-size:7pt;font-family:'Times New Roman'">
</span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;color:black;background-color:rgb(231,229,218)">Initial
thoughts on e</span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%">xplore the
concept of opening up/scaling:</span><b></b></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%">ID existing networks with aligned missions or
audiences for spreading the word or adoption</span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%">Explore value, feasibility, and alignment of various
methods for knowledge and expertise sharing – forums, trainings, books, online
resources, face-to-face training, etc. </span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1.25in"><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%;font-family:Wingdings">§<span style="font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span class=""><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:110%">Structures for sustainability - community fundraising,
paying clients, all volunteer, multiple methods, etc. </span></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-left:1in"><span class=""> </span></p><div><br></div>-- <br>Tricia Chirumbole<br>US: +1-571-232-0942<br>Skype: tricia.chirumbole<br><br><div style="padding:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px;overflow:hidden;word-wrap:break-word;color:black;font-size:10px;text-align:left;line-height:130%">
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