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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing people about the political and economic situation there. He reports that some people would say: “We can’t predict the future – after all, you have no idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back.” The metaphor of the way time flows there is the opposite of ours. In Western Europe, we picture ourselves as looking to the future and having the past behind our backs. Apparently in Greece, the people experience the timeline so that the future is coming from behind and the past is disappearing in front of them. So they are looking at the past and not seeing the future. Which makes sense; we think we look at the future, but what are we looking at? Only images, because we don’t know what it will be. Which also leads to the question whether our images from the past are correct, but that is another story.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This leads me to wondering if there might be cultures where time is viewed as circular, which would make even more sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Koos<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>Namens </b>paul </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>levy<br><b>Verzonden:</b> zondag 24 maart 2013 19:37<br><b>Aan:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>David<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There's a depth and warm texture to your model.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would offer this:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You define vision this: <br>"what does it look like when it is done"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe that is only part of vision. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past, present AND future, all playing into each other. As I said earlier - what went before (past) is also before us (future, in front).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Such a magical word - before - it means both behind and in front !<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When we open space for a vision of the whole timeline - the unfolding story - then something often emerges - it is this: potential <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I believe we can only truly know the future vision when we look back at it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Be prepared to be surprised.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The future is often revealed by opening space for the present and the past.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Futures are fulfilled in where we have travelled from.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Sunday, 24 March 2013, David wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I do open space with my business hat on in the consulting role, I almost always start with four imperatives that most companies start with, even if they havent articulated it, but soon lose sight of. I call it VMPM. Vision, Mission, Purpose, Method. Many companies have a mission statement, few ever read it after it has been written. NO company is healthy for more than a year or two at a time, although many run very successfully from the economic metric for years or decades. I just put up the four words, the group gets to define them. Here are my definitions, that we usually start with to frame the discussion:</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vision: what does it look like when it is done. A vision is a snapshot, or series of snapshots. Vision is not Mission.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mission: What is the target, how does the map compare to the territory. The territory is not always reflected on the map. (just by a street map of Nairobi sometime, and you will see what I mean). Mission is not Purpose.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Purpose: the personal "why" . Purpose is purpose, it is my personal core driver. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Method: How we do it, the outflow of the inflow of the first three points. Method is how I achieve my self interests as part of a collaborative community, also called a company. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All successful communities have these common elements: Community! which is collaborative and cooperative, consistent and committed. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have found that through the day of OS things hidden or unknown become apparent. All day I am moving idea and discussion points into those four points, and whatever other axiomatic points the circle cares to add on their own. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Glenwinkel</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.villagecare.com" target="_blank">www.villagecare.com</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzanne Daigle<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Ditto for me too! Suzanne<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=EN-US>On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <<a href="mailto:adriana@diazberrio.com">adriana@diazberrio.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>Yes I agree with Nici I was going to say the same thing!<br>Adriana Diaz-Berrio, Montreal, Quebec<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p>2013/3/23 Nici Richter <<span lang=EN-US><a href="mailto:nici.richter@gmail.com"><span lang=NL>nici.richter@gmail.com</span></a></span>><o:p></o:p></p><div><p><span lang=EN-US>What a wonderful conversation!<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Oh - I am loving it!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Nici Richter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Johannesburg, South Africa<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=EN-US>On 23 March 2013 14:56, paul levy <<a href="mailto:paul@cats3000.net">paul@cats3000.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=EN-US>Dear colleagues<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Someone suggested I post this and I'd be delighted with some reflections on it...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>warm wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Paul Levy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US>Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><i><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>"Time runs backwards in the spiritual world."</span></i><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>No, don't stop reading. Not yet.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>There's a lot of debate in the field of emergence focused on "when things open up, how do you close them down?".</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>In the realm of Open Space, often the textbook reply is not to close down at all but simply to open some more space for closing down...</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>In other words, if we are worried about outcomes from an open space - what will happen back at base, the actions, the commitments in practice, then all we need to do is to follow up with an invitation to another Open Space that focuses on the question of action. So you need at least two open spaces to get stuff done.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>Another view is that one should trust the open space itself - whatever happens of course is the only thing that could have. And many open spaces do self-organise sessions about action so... just trust the process. It always works.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>A third view is that these are paying clients we are usually talking about. As facilitators we can't just leave the organisation "up in the air", walk away and let them do what they will with the space we've opened up! Many facilitators then reach for the post-it notes, often in the last hour, and start to draw out (or bleed?) actions from the meeting. All kinds of clever prioritising and voting ensues. Elsewhere I've suggested this might be a counter-productive way of going about things.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>Now, here's an alternative view and its based on the idea that time runs backwards in the spiritual world. No! Stay with me. Just for a bit longer. Imagine you put what went "before" you (past), before you (in front of you.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='line-height:14.25pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#333333'>For those of you still here, read on...</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA<br><a href="tel:%28514%29%20739%202268" target="_blank">(514) 739 2268</a><br><a href="http://www.diazberrio.com" target="_blank">www.diazberrio.com</a><br> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'OSList@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20'OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org');" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Suzanne Daigle<br>NuFocus Strategic Group<br>7159 Victoria Circle<br>University Park, FL 34201<br>FL 941-359-8877; <br>CT 203-722-2009<br><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com" target="_blank">www.nufocusgroup.com</a><br><a href="javascript:_e(%7b%7d,%20'cvml',%20's.daigle@nufocusgroup.com');" target="_blank">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a><br>twitter @suzannedaigle<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>