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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks so much for your feedback. To answer your questions so far. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Participation was voluntary, although the culture in Kenya is that people expect to get a payment to attend forums, so some of them were misinformed and may have come for the expected money. This is a culture started by foreign aid and is now endemic. The first thing people ask if there is a forum is ‘how much money will I get’ to attend. While the money thing makes true motivation for attending cloudy, there were some that did know there was no financial gain for attending. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The theme was peace in the community and it was 2 days before the elections in Kenya. The theme was relevant and something that a lot of people were directly effected by from the post election violence in the 2007 elections. So relevance was there but that does not mean it is something that people are passionate about. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It was an open community forum, not within an intact system.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I noticed also that people stayed in their small clusters of people they knew. They did not mix or move around to work with other people. Not sure what that was about or how normal that is. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kenya has an education system where children are told what to think and what to do. It is not a culture that naturally lends itself to people making their own decisions and breaking out of the usual tribe. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Another observation is that people seem to finish their discussions very quickly and merge sessions so that they cover all the topics in one or 2 sessions, leaving the later sessions as a blank space where there is nothing to discuss. It feels like there is a very superficial discussion of topics rather then getting into the heart of it. In a forum of 100 people, to cover all the topics in a couple of sessions is a surprise to me. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Any further ideas would be much appreciated. I am a westerner working in Kenya, so culturally I am still learning a lot. I know I am missing something important. I think it is helpful to draw my attention to the question of passion. It does feel like passion is missing, and also the hunger to get to the bottom of things is missing. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Peace<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#34AF09'>Celia Bray<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>CEO<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Omni One Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Peace, Enterprise and Community Development<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>P +254 735 191 344<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>E celia.bray@omni-one-consulting.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>W www.omni-one-consulting.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img width=160 height=62 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CE1920.AC966B70" alt=OmniC84a-A08aT06a-Z><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>'The best way to predict the future is to create it' Peter Druker</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Whitney Sanchez<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 4 March 2013 7:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] inquiry OS<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Celia,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Adding to Harrison's and Chris's questions about invitation and voluntary participation, I wonder whether the participants are working together on something and truly understand the process and benefits of cross-pollination? Are you working with public forums or within an intact system? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And I wonder if it might be counter cultural (within the system or in the larger culture) in some way? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for bringing the discussion to the list. I love a good mystery!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Warm wishes from the air from Phoenix to DC,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Christine<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 4, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Chris Corrigan <<a href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Agreed…sounds like a passion deficit. In my experience, when people are gathered to discuss an issue that just burns within them, OST meetings fly. We are never bored by immediate need!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My advice in the pre-meetings with your sponsor is to ask - "Why do we need to hold this meeting? What is happening that makes this meeting important for everyone who will attend?" From there, your invitation process should be to reach all of those for whom this issue matters greatly. The key is not in doing Open Space, it is in invitation. If the structure of Open Space is a fireplace, invitation is the wood and passion is what lights it. If one of the three is missing, your OST will fizzle (or work anyway, but with low energy, if you want to put it that way).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2013-03-04, at 9:21 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Celia – Odd indeed! My first thought is two questions: A) Is participation totally voluntary, or have the people, in some way or another, been “told” to come? B) Is the subject (Theme) of the OS something that the people truly care about? If the answers are No, No – then I am not very surprised with the results. 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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:oslist-<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>]<b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Celia Bray CEO Omni One<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, March 04, 2013 2:05 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[OSList] inquiry OS</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Dear OS community</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>HELP NEEDED.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have been working in Kenya for the last 8 months and facilitated a few open space forums. I have noticed a pattern developing in my OS forums that is not great. I am not sure if i am doing something wrong when opening the space. It seems that when it is time to start session 1, if people don't have their own topic in session 1 they just sit there. People only really engage in the topic they put up themselves and sit around being butterflies for the rest of the forum, complaining they are bored and waiting for their session. Also, when they have finished their discussions they don't join other people's group to contribute.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It has happened a few times. I wonder if it is normal or if I am missing something. I do explain that if they are not discussing their topic they can look at other people's topics and go to other groups, but it seems to not be heard. It is not just a few, it is many people, sometimes half or more of the forum are sitting waiting for their topic.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Please help me to understand what might be going on or what I might be doing wrong.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span 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