<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>How wonder-full! These exchanges are just gorgeous, for what they reveal about the stories we each carry that are a lens through which we receive and open to what wants to emerge!!</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you all! I'm so grateful to be part of opening inner/outer space and emerging the Re-menbering of the whole enchilada we are constantly engaged in!!</div><div><br></div><div>Disclosure: I'm part of the "story-telling craft workers guild", so I appreciate all forms of story telling mastery! (Yes, I was a TV producer for many many years in my pre-OST professional life. The shooters were awesome. Their shots had truth, blinding glorious truth!). We need that heartful heart-filled feedback in all forms.</div><div><br></div><div>Love and blessings to all. Anne<br><br><div><br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Your Self</span></div><div>Occupy</div><div>100%</div></div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my cottage</div><div>Phone: 206-459-0227 </div><div> </div><div><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a></div></div><div><br>On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:06 PM, <a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Send OSList mailing list submissions to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit</span><br><span> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-request@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>You can reach the person managing the list at</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-owner@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</span><br><span>than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..."</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Today's Topics:</span><br><span></span><br><span> 1. Re: An offering! (Michael M Pannwitz)</span><br><span> 2. Re: An offering! (ANNE BENNETT)</span><br><span> 3. Re: offering (Raffi Aftandelian)</span><br><span> 4. Re: An offering! (????? ?????? ?.)</span><br><span> 5. Re: An offering! (Eleder_BuM)</span><br><span> 6. Re: An offering! (JL Walker)</span><br><span> 7. Re: An offering! (Lenser Farah)</span><br><span> 8. Re: An offering! (marianella sclavi)</span><br><span> 9. Re: An offering! (Nasty Banks!) (Harrison Owen)</span><br><span> 10. Re: An offering! (Nasty Banks!) (Brett Barndt)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:59:52 +0100</span><br><span>From: Michael M Pannwitz <<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:510710F8.1070807@gmail.com">510710F8.1070807@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Anne,</span><br><span>I watched it and reacted quite differently.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several </span><br><span>cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional </span><br><span>musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work </span><br><span>backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using </span><br><span>the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression </span><br><span>of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music </span><br><span>professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing </span><br><span>passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including </span><br><span>the conductor.</span><br><span>A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...</span><br><span>against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco </span><br><span>Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% </span><br><span>unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol </span><br><span>abused by a Spanish Bank.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I closed all space for appreciating the music.</span><br><span></span><br><span>What I really enjoyed, look here</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://vimeo.com/24157696">http://vimeo.com/24157696</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of </span><br><span>cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!</span><br><span></span><br><span>hugs</span><br><span>mmp</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time I view it!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Love Anne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your Self</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Occupy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>100%</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my cottage</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone: 206-459-0227</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a> <<a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">http://www.CompassionateAction.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a> <<a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">http://www.InClaritas.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a> <<a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">http://www.fluentsource.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Michael M Pannwitz</span><br><span>Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany</span><br><span>++49 - 30-772 8000</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open </span><br><span>Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries </span><br><span>worldwide: <a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org">www.openspaceworldmap.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 2</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 00:54:10 +0000 (GMT)</span><br><span>From: ANNE BENNETT <<a href="mailto:anne.bennett8ac@btinternet.com">anne.bennett8ac@btinternet.com</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>"</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <1359420850.36510.<a href="mailto:androidMobile@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com">androidMobile@web87403.mail.ir2.yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Here we go...I hope!</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpIM0bcNFA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PpIM0bcNFA</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Michael</span><br><span>Thank you! So relieved to find a kindred soul. I too felt pain on LudvigVB's behalf, and some other things as well as the themes you express. For me today you have opened much heartspace. If I could I would post a link to any performance by El Sistema, both Venezuelan and Scottish. With deep gratitude</span><br><span>Anne</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</span><br><span></span><br><span>From: Michael M Pannwitz <<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>>; </span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>; </span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! </span><br><span>Sent: Mon, Jan 28, 2013 11:59:52 PM </span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Anne,</span><br><span>I watched it and reacted quite differently.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including the conductor.</span><br><span>A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...</span><br><span>against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol abused by a Spanish Bank.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I closed all space for appreciating the music.</span><br><span></span><br><span>What I really enjoyed, look here</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://vimeo.com/24157696">http://vimeo.com/24157696</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!</span><br><span></span><br><span>hugs</span><br><span>mmp</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email.? This is US</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>humans opening space!? So magnificent.? It brings tears of joy every</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time I view it!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Love Anne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your Self</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Occupy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>100%</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my cottage</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone: 206-459-0227</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a> <<a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">http://www.CompassionateAction.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a> <<a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">http://www.InClaritas.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a> <<a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">http://www.fluentsource.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- Michael M Pannwitz</span><br><span>Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany</span><br><span>++49 - 30-772 8000</span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries worldwide: <a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org">www.openspaceworldmap.org</a></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/ea2e6c20/attachment.html">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/ea2e6c20/attachment.html</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 3</span><br><span>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:46:19 -0800 (PST)</span><br><span>From: Raffi Aftandelian <<a href="mailto:raffi_1970@yahoo.com">raffi_1970@yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span>To: OSlist <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] offering</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <1359427579.92741.<a href="mailto:YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com">YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br><span></span><br><span>miguel-jan, anne salam!</span><br><span></span><br><span>thanks for sharing your offerings. both touched me!</span><br><span></span><br><span>greetings from sankt-diegovsk,</span><br><span>raffi</span><br><span>?</span><br><span>powered by ubuntu 10.4</span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130128/26249aac/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130128/26249aac/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 4</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:28:29 +0700</span><br><span>From: ????? ?????? ?. <<a href="mailto:tyasto@sapa.nsk.su">tyasto@sapa.nsk.su</a>></span><br><span>To: "'<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>'" <<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>>, 'World wide Open</span><br><span> Space Technology email list' <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Cc: "'<a href="mailto:genuine-contact@googlegroups.com">genuine-contact@googlegroups.com</a>'"</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:genuine-contact@googlegroups.com">genuine-contact@googlegroups.com</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID: <0A78ADDF33E19140BF29B2C0ADD284A9183F90B1@BOXER></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Michael!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thank you for sharing this video. I've been in tears watching this video,</span><br><span>because I like the idea, I like the place, I've been there in 2006 at this</span><br><span>square in Cologne, and because there are two my friends Marai and Christian</span><br><span>who brought this joy and warmth of genuine contact to so many people! Great!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Love and blessings,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Marina</span><br><span>Novosibirsk</span><br><span>Russia</span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br><span>From: Michael M Pannwitz [<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com">mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>] </span><br><span>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:00 AM</span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Dear Anne,</span><br><span>I watched it and reacted quite differently.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I saw the perfect choreography and the precise filmwork with several </span><br><span>cameras and the big invisible crew and the large number of professional </span><br><span>musicians and singers from several choirs and the organizational work </span><br><span>backstage such as getting the municipality to grant permission for using </span><br><span>the public space for this event... all the time evoking the impression </span><br><span>of an impromptu happening with lots of casually dressed music </span><br><span>professionals just incidentally meeting and playing and singing </span><br><span>passionately... and thanking the rapt crowd with stage bows, including </span><br><span>the conductor.</span><br><span>A grand commercial/polished ad costing sums only a bank can afford...</span><br><span>against the backdrop of unfathomable sums spanish banks including Banco </span><br><span>Sabadell burned harming millions of Spaniards and resulting in a 26% </span><br><span>unemployment rate (ove 50% among youths)...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I guess, Charlie Brown, fan of Ludwig van would bristle seeing his idol </span><br><span>abused by a Spanish Bank.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I closed all space for appreciating the music.</span><br><span></span><br><span>What I really enjoyed, look here</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://vimeo.com/24157696">http://vimeo.com/24157696</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>It took 4 os workers, two handheld whatever gizmo to record it, a bit of </span><br><span>cardboard, some magic markers... and spirit!</span><br><span></span><br><span>hugs</span><br><span>mmp</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 26.01.2013 22:22, Anne Stadler wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>time I view it!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Love Anne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your Self</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Occupy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>100%</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my cottage</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone: 206-459-0227</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a> <<a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">http://www.CompassionateAction.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a> <<a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">http://www.InClaritas.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a> <<a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">http://www.fluentsource.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Michael M Pannwitz</span><br><span>Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany</span><br><span>++49 - 30-772 8000</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 401 resident Open </span><br><span>Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries </span><br><span>worldwide: <a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org">www.openspaceworldmap.org</a></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 5</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:36:22 +0100</span><br><span>From: Eleder_BuM <<a href="mailto:eleder.aurtenetxe@gmail.com">eleder.aurtenetxe@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAK1+_w_rp8tG05K5o1znvFQ5yPCHmUS8v6EwxRgEKYozBBK-9A@mail.gmail.com">CAK1+_w_rp8tG05K5o1znvFQ5yPCHmUS8v6EwxRgEKYozBBK-9A@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!</span><br><span></span><br><span>I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know</span><br><span>I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and</span><br><span>days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the</span><br><span>whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this</span><br><span>commercial.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the</span><br><span>headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to</span><br><span>people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they</span><br><span>are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another</span><br><span>campaing?)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,..</span><br><span>but I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.</span><br><span></span><br><span>And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in</span><br><span>Sabadell seems* quite different from self organized and emergent,</span><br><span>spontaneus,...*</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video</span><br><span>related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years</span><br><span>ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real</span><br><span>fun ;-)!</span><br><span></span><br><span>And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some* conflict,</span><br><span>confussion, chaos* at the end,... One can sense there was not much money</span><br><span>for the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!</span><br><span>* *</span><br><span></span><br><span>*<a href="http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html*">http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html*</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in</span><br><span>regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main</span><br><span>issues and opportunities!</span><br><span></span><br><span>This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and</span><br><span>the whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s</span><br><span>dream :-)!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Love,</span><br><span></span><br><span>*@Eleder_BuM <<a href="http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM">http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM</a>> *</span><br><span><a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com">www.burumapak.blogspot.com</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com">www.flowandshow.blogspot.com</a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz">www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Banks can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>commercial as gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>standard that needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>what that means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>even Banks can do it. 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it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> emotions inside me :-o) and****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. *</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> ***</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - ...****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>weeks,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*@Eleder_BuM <<a href="http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM">http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM</a>> *</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com">www.burumapak.blogspot.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com">www.flowandshow.blogspot.com</a>****</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b8742395/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b8742395/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 6</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:26:34 -0300</span><br><span>From: "JL Walker" <<a href="mailto:jlwalker@terra.cl">jlwalker@terra.cl</a>></span><br><span>To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID: <024e01cdfe2c$a7207230$f5615690$@cl></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook. Too inspirational.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space?</span><br><span></span><br><span>Or only "occupy" is the right name for it?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our cities? </span><br><span></span><br><span>What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Could be the World Bank the sponsor?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>What do you think?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>From Chile with love,</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Juan Luis</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>De: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] En nombre de Anne Stadler</span><br><span>Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22</span><br><span>Para: <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>Asunto: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view it!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"! </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Love Anne</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Your Self</span><br><span></span><br><span>Occupy</span><br><span></span><br><span>100%</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from my cottage</span><br><span></span><br><span>Phone: 206-459-0227 </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg</a> <<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a>> &feature=<a href="http://youtu.be">youtu.be</a></span><br><span></span><br><span> _____ </span><br><span></span><br><span>Se certific? que el correo no contiene virus.</span><br><span>Comprobada por AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.es">www.avg.es</a></span><br><span>Versi?n: 2013.0.2890 / Base de datos de virus: 2639/6056 - Fecha de la versi?n: 25/01/2013</span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b37e8730/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/b37e8730/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 7</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:04:21 +0100 (CET)</span><br><span>From: Lenser Farah <<a href="mailto:farah@open-forum.de">farah@open-forum.de</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <597171442.2481265.1359471861771.<a href="mailto:JavaMail.open-xchange@communicator.strato.com">JavaMail.open-xchange@communicator.strato.com</a>></span><br><span> </span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>same here, thank you!!</span><br><span>farah</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>fischer florian <<a href="mailto:info@ff-wey.com">info@ff-wey.com</a>> hat am 26. Januar 2013 um 23:32 geschrieben:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>yes, dear Anne, tears of yoy.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Florian</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Am 26.01.2013 um 22:22 schrieb Anne Stadler:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>humans opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>view it!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Love Anne</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Your Self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Occupy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 100%</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Sent from my cottage</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Phone: 206-459-0227</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a> <<a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">http://www.CompassionateAction.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a> <<a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a> <<a 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href="mailto:sclavi.marianella@gmail.com">sclavi.marianella@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJZEHNWLPNPnFizs564oxrjYb439fbrmSZft5rC-iO=bE-SOVQ@mail.gmail.com">CAJZEHNWLPNPnFizs564oxrjYb439fbrmSZft5rC-iO=bE-SOVQ@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi everybody</span><br><span></span><br><span> I agree that a commercial for a bank by itself does not awake very</span><br><span>positive emotions nowadays, but:</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://1.it">1.it</a> is a wonderful one, extremely well crafted and enjoyable</span><br><span> 2. we can learn a lot from good communications</span><br><span>For ex: 1. I would love to have a youtube about a good Ost done in the</span><br><span>same manner</span><br><span>and I think it is possible, although the Ost is more "spontaneous" and</span><br><span>the bank's concert is a sort of a living theater, with actors</span><br><span>pretending to be passersby and passersby being actors.</span><br><span>for ex: 2. by looking at this video everybody can understand very</span><br><span>effectively the value of flash-mob music in public places. And that</span><br><span>public places should be planned to host such happenings, spontaneous</span><br><span>or organized.</span><br><span></span><br><span>and ( Michael) I find the bank's video much more effective and</span><br><span>enjoyable than the one about free hugs in a public place which can be</span><br><span>seen ( and done ) once a year, but not twice.</span><br><span></span><br><span>An appreciation of a rich, extremely well crafted communication</span><br><span>payed for by a bank, doesn't mean that we have to appreciate the main</span><br><span>politics of the bank.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In a few words: I am going to imitate ..the bank !! ( Also because I</span><br><span>think that it is a kind of good idea that with the right people can be</span><br><span>done for free exactly like the free hug happening.. )</span><br><span></span><br><span> And I find very interesting this whole discussion !!</span><br><span></span><br><span>So double thanks to Anne.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Marianella</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>2013/1/29 JL Walker <<a href="mailto:jlwalker@terra.cl">jlwalker@terra.cl</a>>:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks a lot for your post Anne Stadler, I have also put it on my Facebook.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Too inspirational.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Could we also talk about a "flash mob" Open Space?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Or only "occupy" is the right name for it?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What if for the next 20th of March that has been declared by UN as the world</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>day of happiness, many of us facilitate a flash mob Open Space in our</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cities?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What if the theme be challenges and opportunities of happiness today?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Could be the World Bank the sponsor?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>What do you think?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From Chile with love,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Juan Luis</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>De: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] En nombre de Anne Stadler</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Enviado el: s?bado, 26 de enero de 2013 18:22</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Para: <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Asunto: [OSList] An offering!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Please watch the YouTube link at the end of this email. This is US humans</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>opening space! So magnificent. It brings tears of joy every time I view</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you for our consistence and presence in "the work"!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Love Anne</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Your Self</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Occupy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>100%</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my cottage</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone: 206-459-0227</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.CompassionateAction.org">www.CompassionateAction.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ThrivingCommunities.org">www.ThrivingCommunities.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.InClaritas.com">www.InClaritas.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.fluentsource.org">www.fluentsource.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be">http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=GBaHPND2QJg&feature=youtu.be</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Se certific? que el correo no contiene virus.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Comprobada por AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.es">www.avg.es</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Versi?n: 2013.0.2890 / Base de datos de virus: 2639/6056 - Fecha de la</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>versi?n: 25/01/2013</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>*****</span><br><span> <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/Home">http://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/Home</a></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/">https://sites.google.com/site/marianellasclavi/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>*****</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 9</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:39:51 -0500</span><br><span>From: "Harrison Owen" <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)</span><br><span>Message-ID: <001501cdfe36$e16a94c0$a43fbe40$@net></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in</span><br><span>the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed</span><br><span>and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it</span><br><span>looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly</span><br><span>and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you</span><br><span>love to hate. Been there. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we</span><br><span>certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things</span><br><span>that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when</span><br><span>they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most</span><br><span>of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some</span><br><span>broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that</span><br><span>these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating</span><br><span>conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays</span><br><span>? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially</span><br><span>from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their</span><br><span>system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that</span><br><span>pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying</span><br><span>the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and</span><br><span>light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their</span><br><span>colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened</span><br><span>even wider, the whole community can render the same function. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another</span><br><span>part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air</span><br><span>helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some</span><br><span>space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit?</span><br><span>but you have to start somewhere.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison Owen</span><br><span></span><br><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br><span></span><br><span>USA</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Camden, Maine 04843</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Phone 301-365-2093</span><br><span></span><br><span>(summer) 207-763-3261</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a> </span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)</span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST</span><br><span>Go to:</span><br><span><<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>From: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM</span><br><span>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM</span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!</span><br><span></span><br><span>I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know</span><br><span>I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and</span><br><span>days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the</span><br><span>whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this</span><br><span>commercial.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the</span><br><span>headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to</span><br><span>people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they</span><br><span>are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another</span><br><span>campaing?)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but</span><br><span>I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial. </span><br><span></span><br><span>And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in</span><br><span>Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,</span><br><span>spontaneus,...</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video</span><br><span>related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years</span><br><span>ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun</span><br><span>;-)!</span><br><span></span><br><span>And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,</span><br><span>confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for</span><br><span>the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html">http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in</span><br><span>regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main</span><br><span>issues and opportunities!</span><br><span></span><br><span>This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the</span><br><span>whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream</span><br><span>:-)!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Love,</span><br><span></span><br><span> <<a href="http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM">http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM</a>> @Eleder_BuM </span><br><span> <<a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/">http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/</a>> <a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com">www.burumapak.blogspot.com</a> </span><br><span> <<a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/">http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/</a>> <a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com">www.flowandshow.blogspot.com</a> </span><br><span> <<a href="http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz">http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz</a>> <a href="http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz">www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks</span><br><span>can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as</span><br><span>gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that</span><br><span>needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that</span><br><span>means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks</span><br><span>can do it. J </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>ho</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison Owen</span><br><span></span><br><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br><span></span><br><span>USA</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><br><span></span><br><span>Camden, Maine 04843</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Phone 301-365-2093</span><br><span></span><br><span>(summer) 207-763-3261</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a> <<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com%20">http://www.openspaceworld.com%20</a>> </span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> <<a href="http://www.ho-image.com%20">http://www.ho-image.com%20</a>> (Personal Website)</span><br><span></span><br><span>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST</span><br><span>Go to:http://<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>From: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM</span><br><span>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Hi Anne and all friends around,</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open</span><br><span>Space,...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I?ll add, anyway, that..</span><br><span></span><br><span>* it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting</span><br><span>emotions inside me :-o) and</span><br><span>* the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. </span><br><span>* ...</span><br><span></span><br><span>long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy</span><br><span>weeks,</span><br><span></span><br><span> <<a href="http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM">http://twitter.com/Eleder_BuM</a>> @Eleder_BuM </span><br><span> <<a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/">http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com/</a>> <a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com">www.burumapak.blogspot.com</a> </span><br><span> <<a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/">http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com/</a>> <a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com">www.flowandshow.blogspot.com</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/9e620010/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20130129/9e620010/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 10</span><br><span>Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:16:07 -0500</span><br><span>From: Brett Barndt <<a href="mailto:barndtbrett@gmail.com">barndtbrett@gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAD4gZVEGD2GMm1UYDJRUFOr6oiLPWFy8EUVxtVKR4AXTmCJY8w@mail.gmail.com">CAD4gZVEGD2GMm1UYDJRUFOr6oiLPWFy8EUVxtVKR4AXTmCJY8w@mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252</span><br><span></span><br><span>Harrison,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Great to see this topic on OSlist. Very very very important for</span><br><span>caring, concerned, and socially engaged people to educate ourselves</span><br><span>about this important and fundamental topic. In fact, there are</span><br><span>alternatives to this system and Sh* does not need to happen quite like</span><br><span>it does. The Sh* is a product of the system as it is designed. There</span><br><span>are alternatives, and it is high time we resurfaced those alternatives</span><br><span>in consciousness after a century of power institution efforts to erase</span><br><span>them.</span><br><span></span><br><span>There is some very good history by Farley Grubb of UDelaware on the</span><br><span>origins of bank power over our economy. It turns out a significant</span><br><span>number of the Founding Fathers were bank shareholders in the Bank of</span><br><span>the United States. Farley Grubb makes it pretty clear that the</span><br><span>Founders and the "Money Interests" got what they wanted by limiting</span><br><span>the ability of local communities and states to issue their own money</span><br><span>into circulation.</span><br><span></span><br><span>They made sure that the private banking industry would have control</span><br><span>over the money supply, to expand it when they want to, and then</span><br><span>contract when they need to for their own profit purposes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>This system is in stark contrast to the colonial period when</span><br><span>individual colonies issued currency into circulation for services</span><br><span>rendered to the colony. i.e. community.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Banks may be part of our economic life, but the way they create the</span><br><span>money supply through debts is an arbitrary form emanating from England</span><br><span>with the Bank of England. They used that system all over the empire</span><br><span>precisely because it draws the fruits of productive effort and human</span><br><span>transformative energy ever more toward a center of fewer and fewer</span><br><span>owners. The IMF then pushed it out to more places in the world after</span><br><span>"independence" and the replacement of the British Empire.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The system was also foisted upon European countries in the days of</span><br><span>"classical" or "liberal" economics. The system itself as designed</span><br><span>explains why wealth and income is so concentrated in these economies,</span><br><span>and why more and more are rendered property-less wage earners</span><br><span>perpetually in debt to the owners of the banks at the heart of the</span><br><span>economic system.</span><br><span></span><br><span>It turns out that the "open space" of the Constitutional Conventions</span><br><span>in Philadelphia in the 17980s were not so open since bank shareholders</span><br><span>were the preponderance of the attendees at the "open space". And,</span><br><span>evidently there were several similar "coup d'etats" against real</span><br><span>dialogue and all voices being heard over time at strategic moments</span><br><span>from then until now. The Shays and Whiskey Rebellions arose only a few</span><br><span>short years after this money monopoly was established as evidence</span><br><span>enough of its unjust outcomes.</span><br><span></span><br><span>We need to open that space again and revisit these constitutions and</span><br><span>all the law codes that privilege creditors, banks, and their</span><br><span>beneficial owners over everybody else who really are the ones creating</span><br><span>everything that's created underlying the economy. It is after all a</span><br><span>human economy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>We all need to learn more vocabulary about the choices available to us</span><br><span>for how money comes into existence. This is what now needs to happen</span><br><span>in Open Space. Conventional wisdom, lack of knowledge, propaganda, and</span><br><span>loss of agency have taken away our knowledge about the origins of</span><br><span>money, and the power dynamics inherent in those origins.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Like Grubb and other historians studying about money in these early</span><br><span>Constitutional Conventions like to say, "the average red neck farmer</span><br><span>in the Carolinas knew more about money and where it comes from than</span><br><span>the average Ivy League educated law student today."</span><br><span></span><br><span>And, I witnessed his questioning the audience about origin of money to</span><br><span>an audience of law students at Columbia University just last week!</span><br><span></span><br><span>We had better wake up from our slumber about these dark details. The</span><br><span>Spanish banks are not the only ones who have a lot to cover up with</span><br><span>feel good warm and fuzzy commercials. They have taken the nation to</span><br><span>the brink of disaster. 26% unemployment, and like in Greece, rising</span><br><span>suicide rates.</span><br><span></span><br><span>As a Canadian visitor asked a group of young activists in December in</span><br><span>NYC, "do you Americans know what has happened to your country? Do you</span><br><span>know what it is like to come by train from Toronto and cross the</span><br><span>border at Niagara Falls to see boarded up and abandoned houses? And, 8</span><br><span>hours of train past disused factories and towns all over New York</span><br><span>State? Do you know what happens when the wealth of a generation gets</span><br><span>wiped out?"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Of course they did not know what happens...maybe that would be wisdom</span><br><span>for European grandparents to contribute!</span><br><span></span><br><span>On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eleder ? As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>love to hate. Been there.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>? to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the analogy ? the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>even wider, the whole community can render the same function.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don?t think this is rosy-eyed idealism? Fact is, Banks are just another</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>part of humanity, and sh? does happen. And when it does, some fresh air</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>but you have to start somewhere.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>USA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, Maine 04843</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone 301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(summer) 207-763-3261</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Go to:http://<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,... but I have my own limits and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>commercial.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(Maybe I?m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>campaing?)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>spontaneus,...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ago. It?s not Beethoven, It?s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>;-)!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the artists, but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html">http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>issues and opportunities!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let?s dream</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>:-)!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Love,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Eleder_BuM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.burumapak.blogspot.com">www.burumapak.blogspot.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.flowandshow.blogspot.com">www.flowandshow.blogspot.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz">www.bilbohiria.com/gaika/berbaz</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Eleder ? you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don?t you know that even Banks</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>needs to be repeated (IMHO ? which thanks to Artur I now know what that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can do it. J</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ho</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Potomac, MD 20854</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>USA</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Camden, Maine 04843</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phone 301-365-2093</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(summer) 207-763-3261</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a 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Eleder_BuM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Anne and all friends around,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space,...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I?ll add, anyway, that..</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting emotions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>inside me :-o) and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>weeks,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@Eleder_BuM</span><br></blockquote><blockquote 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