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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Michael,<br>
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With trepidation I continue this conversation despite the sense
that we're alone in a circle and everyone else on the list are
using the law of de-lete. I hope you don't mind if I reflect back
a few of your statements.<br>
<br>
"What if anyone could indeed convene an osonos?"<br>
<br>
I don't get your question. Anyone can indeed convene an OSonOS.<br>
<br>
"what if the notes from all of these osonos events were posted to
this one site? ...so that the W came to denote ALL of our work IN
open space ON open space? wouldn't this be a gem of a
demonstration that we are living our practice and inviting anyone
to join us as colleagues, not just as trainees?"<br>
<br>
It sounds like you're saying if you do an OSonOS and you don't
post to "this one site", then you're not living the practice (i.e.
out of integrity) and you are inviting people as trainees. Will
you explain these sentiments? I'm not getting it.<br>
<br>
"[...] we insist on having this annual keynote event?"<br>
<br>
My head spins and my heart hurts reading this statement. First of
all, the word "insist" connotes some kind of pushiness. Like it's
being imposed. For me what Phelim did in London was a wonderful
and beautiful expression of love and passion for Open Space - and
for advancing this powerful dialogic practice in the U.K. and in
the world. Phelim, the volunteers, and all the attendees of both
the WOSonOS and the "road show" of Open Space events leading up to
the event made great sacrifices and from my perspective were
gloriously successful - despite the postfacto criticisms. If
anything, I think the intensity of the criticisms are evidence of
how much the London WOSonOS succeeded! We're riding a big wave in
the aftermath of that event!<br>
<br>
My own desire to support Suzanne Daigle to hold this event again
in Florida in 2013 has absolutely nothing to do with the word
"insist". I wish you could understand how it stings when I hear
that word - but obviously it expresses some part of your
experience. Will you say more from your heart what's behind
choosing that word?<br>
<br>
Secondly, it sounds like a very harsh judgement for the WOSonOS to
be called a "keynote" event - like it's evidence that our
community is out of integrity since obviously Open Space is all
about not having keynotes (a sentiment I don't actually share). Do
in fact all Open Space on Open Space events need to be equal? If
someone wants to hold an Open Space on Open Space event just for
those who speak Hawaiian - and they call it a Hawaiian Open Space
on Open Space (HOSonOS) - is that a problem? The World Open Space
community has been holding these WOSonOS's for decades so it seems
pretty clear we *like* to do these events. Your call to kill them
off deeply saddens me - and yet I sense this conversation is
critical. I hope you don't mind me sharing from the heart how I am
hearing your words, and if I am mishearing you I will work hard to
keep my mind and heart open.<br>
<br>
Peace,<br>
Harold<br>
<br>
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On 10/23/12 5:49 PM, Michael Herman wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAD8j=QFZZxd9mVNsbW-=B16yLfaNvpmWk569w4fH93bvA9U0HQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite"><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Harold,
you said: But I'd be saddened if we somehow forbid the "W". It
feels like closing, not opening space.</span><br clear="all">
<div>What if instead we agreed to stretch the W, Harold? What if
anyone could indeed convene an osonos? what if anyone could
indeed convene an osonos gathering and what if it was as simple
as posting an invitation to the oslist and to a website shared
by all osonos events? what if the notes from all of these
osonos events were posted to this one site? ...so that the W
came to denote ALL of our work IN open space ON open space?
wouldn't this be a gem of a demonstration that we are living
our practice and inviting anyone to join us as colleagues, not
just as trainees? what if learning open space came to mean buy
the book, try it out, and find an osonos gathering to process it
with others who cared about open space? what if there were than
many osonos's happening all around the world? </div>
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<div>maintaining this special label on one annual event feels an
awful lot like the preferential treatment other groups give to
the keynote speaker. often it's quite and interesting talk,
people spend a lot of energy choosing these people and setting
up a big room and podium and screens and such... but we know
they're missing something magical, because everyone is not
talking with everyone. </div>
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<div>how can we be sure that we're not missing something amazing
because we insist on having this annual keynote event? and
asking if there were any other offers to host is a bit
misleading, because the structure of the process precludes most
from even considering it. I was actually thinking about
convening one, but given the invitation presentation hoopla, my
plan was to offer to do all the admin details if harrison would
reserve that camden church again. but suzanned called me before
i could call harrison. the point is the habit/structure we have
makes many things impossible to consider, in the same way that a
keynote speaker makes it hard (not impossible, but harder) for
people to connect with others who share their passion. we can't
assume that because everyone is listening to the speaker
politely that they all care or that they don't have other,
greater passions and gifts to offer.</div>
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<div>m</div>
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
Harold Shinsato<br>
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