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Thank you Chris, I get your point. Very clear. I agree with you
now.<br><br>
Thanks for taking the time to explain.<br><br>
Koos<br><br>
<br>
At 07:12 23-10-2012, Chris Corrigan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Koos...for me the law of two
feet is about passion and responsibility. If you care about
something, take care of it. <br><br>
Paul may have felt that he was "taking care of it" when he
produced his critiques of the event in London. Possibly. But my
experience is that many people are comfortable just being in their
passion about something - sometimes just ranting - and fail to join in,
support, improve, help out or otherwise make a responsibility based
offering to the situation at hand. While i appreciate criticism and
am perfectly capable of wrestling with ideas - and in this case I even
pointed out that there is much merit in Paul's observations - I
nevertheless would invite consideration of the fact that if someone is
sitting through an open space event and not offering responsibility, that
the criticism has the feeling of being sniping from the sidelines while
failing to take up the invitation at hand and it's hard to work with
that. That is all.<br><br>
A some level, love it or leave is also always an option, but that isn't
what I'm talking about here. I'm looking for a more nuanced
response from a practitioner that is clearly very familiar with the
dynamics of Open Space and self organization and wondering what he did at
the event to use his own power to create the experience he was looking
for.<br><br>
He may have done something, but as I read it, he stayed for whole thing
and then wrote a fairly detailed critique of the whole experience.
<br><br>
So. Hmmmmm.<br><br>
Chris<br><br>
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On 2012-10-21, at 3:22 AM, Koos de Heer
<<a href="mailto:koos@auryn.nl">koos@auryn.nl</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Chris, <br><br>
I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say that the law of two
feet applies. If it means as much as "This is Open Space, love it or
leave it," I feel compelled to say that I don't support that.
<br><br>
Of course I can walk out of a session if I am feeling that I am neither
learning nor contributing. But if I have the idea that the Open Space
gathering as a whole could use improvements in the way it is run,
referring to the law of two feet can become a way to evade a discussion
that needs to take place. It can take place at a later date, which is
what is happening now and that is fine. <br><br>
Koos<br><br>
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Op 20 okt. 2012 om 21:23 heeft Chris Corrigan
<<a href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</a>
> het volgende geschreven:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The critique in the article is
fine. And the subsequent link Phelim sent along is fine too. Paul's tone
is a bit jarring and his argument isn't helped by making a lot of
generalized statements. Also he critiques WOSonOS in a way that makes it
hard to separate his critique if the event from a critique of the team,
even though he later clarifies that he wasn't critiquing the facilitator.
It's tricky to make a forceful and powerful critique without it seeming
personal. <br><br>
My response to these posts is that Paul is right in substance. In general
my take in things is that the Law of Two Feet applies. If you are not
learning or contributing find some way or some where that you can. That's
what makes things better. Obviously expecting others to change the way
the way a process seems too dependant on them is rational madness.
<br><br>
Chris<br>
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On 2012-10-20, at 5:09 AM,
"<a href="mailto:alan@alanhalford.com.au">alan@alanhalford.com.au</a>
"
<<a href="mailto:alan@alanhalford.com.au">alan@alanhalford.com.au</a>
> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Just spent a delicious
three days co-learning with Peggy Holman here in Perth then I read this -
<br>
So, what's possible now?<br>
<a href="http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment-of-open-space/">
http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment-of-open-space/</a>
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take care out there<br>
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