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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=SV link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the Law is about action too. You can act in three ways<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mental movement (try to change yourself, focus and be fully present, maybe you are missing something important here) – thanks Jan-Erik for this perspective during NOSonOS in august!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Intervention” into what you don’t enjoy, for example if you find the break out group too large – say it!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Leave and go somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas Herrmann<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Från:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>För </b>Chris Corrigan<br><b>Skickat:</b> den 23 oktober 2012 07:13<br><b>Till:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Kopia:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Ämne:</b> Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Koos...for me the law of two feet is about passion and responsibility. If you care about something, take care of it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul may have felt that he was "taking care of it" when he produced his critiques of the event in London. Possibly. But my experience is that many people are comfortable just being in their passion about something - sometimes just ranting - and fail to join in, support, improve, help out or otherwise make a responsibility based offering to the situation at hand. While i appreciate criticism and am perfectly capable of wrestling with ideas - and in this case I even pointed out that there is much merit in Paul's observations - I nevertheless would invite consideration of the fact that if someone is sitting through an open space event and not offering responsibility, that the criticism has the feeling of being sniping from the sidelines while failing to take up the invitation at hand and it's hard to work with that. That is all.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A some level, love it or leave is also always an option, but that isn't what I'm talking about here. I'm looking for a more nuanced response from a practitioner that is clearly very familiar with the dynamics of Open Space and self organization and wondering what he did at the event to use his own power to create the experience he was looking for.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>He may have done something, but as I read it, he stayed for whole thing and then wrote a fairly detailed critique of the whole experience. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So. Hmmmmm.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chris<br><br>---<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>CHRIS CORRIGAN<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>+1 604 947 9236<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2012-10-21, at 3:22 AM, Koos de Heer <<a href="mailto:koos@auryn.nl">koos@auryn.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Chris, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am not sure I understand what you mean when you say that the law of two feet applies. If it means as much as "This is Open Space, love it or leave it," I feel compelled to say that I don't support that. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Of course I can walk out of a session if I am feeling that I am neither learning nor contributing. But if I have the idea that the Open Space gathering as a whole could use improvements in the way it is run, referring to the law of two feet can become a way to evade a discussion that needs to take place. It can take place at a later date, which is what is happening now and that is fine. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Koos<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>Op 20 okt. 2012 om 21:23 heeft Chris Corrigan <<a href="mailto:chris.corrigan@gmail.com">chris.corrigan@gmail.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The critique in the article is fine. And the subsequent link Phelim sent along is fine too. Paul's tone is a bit jarring and his argument isn't helped by making a lot of generalized statements. Also he critiques WOSonOS in a way that makes it hard to separate his critique if the event from a critique of the team, even though he later clarifies that he wasn't critiquing the facilitator. It's tricky to make a forceful and powerful critique without it seeming personal. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My response to these posts is that Paul is right in substance. In general my take in things is that the Law of Two Feet applies. If you are not learning or contributing find some way or some where that you can. That's what makes things better. Obviously expecting others to change the way the way a process seems too dependant on them is rational madness. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Chris<br>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>CHRIS CORRIGAN<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Harvest Moon Consultants<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">www.chriscorrigan.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><a href="http://aohrivendell.withtank.com/" target="_blank"><b>Art of Hosting - Participatory Leadership and Social Collaboration</b>, Bowen Island, BC</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://21">November 12-15 2012</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://aoh-fbc.withtank.com/what-we-study/" target="_blank"><b><span style='color:black'>Art of Hosting in Faith Based Communities</span></b><span style='color:black'>, Salt Lake City, Utah</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://22">November 28th - December 1, 2012</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2012-10-20, at 5:09 AM, "<a href="mailto:alan@alanhalford.com.au">alan@alanhalford.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:alan@alanhalford.com.au">alan@alanhalford.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just spent a delicious three days co-learning with Peggy Holman here in Perth then I read this - <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So, what's possible now?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment-of-open-space/">http://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-tragic-re-imprisonment-of-open-space/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>take care out there<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>alan <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#FE0000'><br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#FD0000'><a href="http://www.alanhalford.com.au/">www.alanhalford.com.au</a><br>0421 475 252<br>skype: alanhalford</span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>