My Open Spaces are usually a day (though we have meet & greets & sunday brunches to provide some wiggle room). They seem to work well. I was recently asked to do a 6-hour open space for about 350 people in Chicago. It went well - very well - but we had a LOT of time beforehand to prep the people through online forums, etc, as well as a lot of participants who had been to other open spaces.<div>
<br></div><div>That being said, with one or two exceptions, everyone there loved it. My only frustration was with people who said "No, I didn't go, it just sounded too disorganized." For some reason, the idea of something being self-organizing is just anathema.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think shorter OS's can work...but I would never want to do one shorter than the 6 hours. Even that felt way too short. Good, but like a book that you really wish didn't end...</div><div><br></div>
<div>Gray</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Catherine Pfaehler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch" target="_blank">c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 10. Juni 2012
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">of course I'll trust you. You put the right words on my inner feelings
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Catherine – I know
you have made your plans. And Plans can change. Here are some thoughts that
might move the changes along… First – The best Presentation on Open Space is
“Do it!” Nothing else comes even close. Second – Doing a Presentation about
Open Space<span> </span><u>before</u><span> </span>an Open Space creates all sorts of
difficulties, none of which you want. No matter what you say, no matter how
good you are – whatever you say will just confuse people. If they have never
experienced Open Space, they simply won’t believe you. And if they have had the
experience, they don’t need the explanation. Even worse, a Presentation up
front will inevitably put the people in a “head” mode, thinking about the
process. They will be wondering about other processes, potential modifications,
what “they” say in the literature. All good thoughts, but definitely not needed
at the onset of an Open Space. Just get on with the business, do what comes
naturally, and forget about the process. After all it works all by itself. No
help needed. And don’t try doing “just a little bit of Open Space” It is always
frustrating, because just about the time you get rolling, it is time to stop.
If these people really want to Celebrate – Go for it and make sure they have
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circle and after the people have shared their comments, ask them by way of
summary “What did you notice particularly about our time together that was
strange, new, surprising, different? I think you will find that the People as a
whole will create a marvelous presentation, and of course you can comment if
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span> </span>[OSList] Any experience with short OST<u></u><u></u></span></font><font color="black"><span lang="EN-US" style><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Market place&agenda (15’). </span></font></span><font color="black"><span lang="EN-US" style><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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closing circle (20') </span></font></span><font color="black"><span lang="EN-US" style><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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short of follow-up of the french publication of Christine Kohler. <u></u><u></u></span></font><font color="black"><span lang="EN-US" style><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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