<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I Never for a second thought you were Harrison. IMHO Did anyone really think you were? </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Love <br></span><div><br></div><div>Phelim </div><div><br></div><div>________________________________</div><div><br></div>I generally pick up<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. </span><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">_____________________________________</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><a href="http://www.improbable.co.uk">www.improbable.co.uk</a></span></div><div>@openspacer</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On 21 Apr 2012, at 22:54, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And for anybody who cares… I am not offended, insulted, or otherwise compromised – except for the continuing loss of neuronal patterns… Artur – I Love you! And I was JOKING! Horrible American habit. We say one thing – and mean totally the opposite. How weird is that? And a lesson for myself – This is a GLOBAL COMMUNITY, in which we all appear as we are, dressed in our cultural drag (…another bad American saying) – and we totally need to understand that others may not understand us in the way we intended. And isn’t that sad/wonderful? Just another day in Open Space…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Camden, Maine 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(summer) 207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"><span style="color:blue">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harrison Owen<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Artur! I’m insulted!! What do you mean, “but his post is IMHO off topic?” I guess part of the problem is that I never did learn what “IMHO” means. Possibly an indigenous war cry? (IM-HO!!) A new synthetic nutrient, somehow related to TOFU? The Portuguese translation of SNAFU? Oh well, antediluvian that I am…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">ho <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Camden, Maine 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(summer) 207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bbunker@buffalo.edu">bbunker@buffalo.edu</a>; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Subject:</b> [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Hi:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>1. I fully agree with Barbara.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>2. I also agree with Harrison, but his post is IMHO off topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><br>3. I am always surprised when people ask questions about a topic (especially if it is about a research topic) without having previously done some little research of their own. My result of a simple search on "research" at "<a href="http://openspacespaceworld.org">openspacespaceworld.org</a>" conducted me to here: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/cat/openspacetech/research/">http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/cat/openspacetech/research/</a> and then to here: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Artur<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Barbara B. Bu</span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">nker <<a href="mailto:bbunker@buffalo.edu">bbunker@buffalo.edu</a>></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>; Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:57 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] (no subject)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span style="color:black"><br>Someone is confused! "Research methods" are things like lab research, field<br>research, qualitative research, unobtrusive methods i.e. ways of collecting data<br>to study behavior.<br><br>Focus groups, Delphi, and yes, even Open Space are methods used for specific<br>purposes in organizations (and elsewhere). They are not research methods. And<br>yes, there has been research employing focus groups, Delphi, etc in order to<br>study some behavior or outcome.<br><br>It's may be difficult to create a good research study using Open Space but I<br>imagine it may already exist or could be done. B3<br><br><br><br>Barbara B. Bunker Ph.D.<br>Professor of Psychology Emerita<br>The University at Buffalo<br>117 Highland Avenue<br>Buffalo, NY 14222<br>716-881-2166<br><br>On Fri 04/20/12 5:14 PM , "Harrison Owen" <a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a> sent:<br>> Barry - Just tell Arthur V. that he is absolutely correct. But it is<br>> better than that! Not only is Open Space "academically invalid" - it<br>> couldn't possibly work, and violates all known principles and<br>> practices of management and meeting management. Definitely a No-No! <br>> But I think all this says much more about Academe than it does about<br>> Open Space, which as we all know - works every time, despite the fact<br>> that it is illegal, immoral and fattening - to say nothing of being<br>> contrary to the best management principles, etc, etc. <br>> You can quote me.<br>> ho<br>> Harrison Owen<br>> <br>> 7808 River Falls Dr.<br>> <br>> Potomac, MD 20854<br>> <br>> USA<br>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<br>> <br>> Camden, Maine 20854<br>> Phone 301-365-2093<br>> <br>> (summer) 207-763-3261<br>> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)<br>> <br>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<br>> OSLIST Go to:<br>> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>> [1]<br>> FROM: <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] ON BEHALF OF Barry<br>> Owen<br>> SENT: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:55 AM<br>> TO: oslist; <a href="mailto:vasconcelos@alum.mit.edu">vasconcelos@alum.mit.edu</a><br>> SUBJECT: [OSList] "Academic Validity?"<br>> Hi Folks,<br>> I know this is not the first time this question has surfaced. <br>> Who out there (in here) has some good stuff to share?<br>> This "academic validity" question boggles my mind<br>> The message initially came through the Open Space facebook page<br>> J ARTHUR VASCONCELOS [2] <br>> <br>> Hi! I was questioned about the use of OS in research. I was planning<br>> on using OS for a section of my thesis but got criticized for "OS not<br>> having academic validity" and "has never been used in research" and<br>> "it is not a recognized research method like a focus group or delphi<br>> pannel". HELP! Any info about using OS in academia? Thank you! <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Links:<br>> ------<br>> [1]<br>> <a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br>> [2] <a href="http://www.facebook.com/jarthur.vasconcelos">http://www.facebook.com/jarthur.vasconcelos</a><br>> <br>> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>