<p>Learninng the art of silence seems to be much more rewarding for both for there's no Godot with fish in hands.</p>
<p>thank you!</p>
<p>spark</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012. 2. 26. 오전 3:16에 "Artur Silva" <<a href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>>님이 작성:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>Yes, Bernardo, you are right. </span><span style="font-size:12pt">Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to fish and also help learning how to learn. </span></div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned - many people think (and do) <span style="font-weight:bold">"facilitate too much"</span>, disempowering the other and making more difficult for him to learn by himself.</span></div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">And your story in Mozambique (Beira) is marvelous.</span></div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Abraço</span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt">Artur</span></div><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div> <div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Bernhard Weber <<a href="mailto:weberb@gmx.at" target="_blank">weberb@gmx.at</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Artur Silva <<a href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com" target="_blank">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:43 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div><div>Yes Artur, <div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">based on my own life and working experience, meanwhile most of it in Ex-colonized countries, our job is, to HELP (I would meanwhile formulate it in a more systemic-adequate way: FACILITATE) to learn, to learn how to learn (as a way of being) and - though inicially accepting the Teacher-Student "Übertragung" (S. Freud, that means also: including the Gegen-Übertragung)- learn how to disappear.</div>
<div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">Only one thing. Let us not be put into a perception and thinking limiting TRANCE by strictly following logic thinking. That means there are times, when the logical either/or is simply not the best solution or even
not human. So there may be cases where we give the fish AND teach to fish. Or give the fish under conditions that fishing is learned.</div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">
<br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">I still remember the blind beggars in Beira, who got only money from me if they accepted to go to the training center for blind people and look if they would not be interested to be trained for a job there.</div>
<div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">
Bernardo</div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif"><br></div><div><br><div><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif">On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Artur Silva
wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><div><div style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Amen for almost everything! And thank you, Harrison, for reminding us of
all this.</span></div>
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