<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I am glad that my also announcing the upcoming event I am hosting does not break these nutrient-rich streams.<div>You know how it is when you are hosting an event and want your fabulous colleagues to join you - and there are also many pre-work tasks. </div><div>I am so happy that I can now step back into this marvelous conversation - and thank you Artur for inspiring it.</div><div><br></div><div>Artur and Bernd I love what you say and Artur your recent post makes me think once again how strongly I feel that the facilitator should not be the 'catalyst' or 'interventionist' but more the 'nutritionist'. </div><div>This includes both our roles before the event, during and afterwards - in a way that supports others' capacity - but there is a nuance here - a continuum between overly doing things that they can do (let us say in the pre-work or during the OSonOS) and adding things we think they 'need' during the OS (like our help, our helping them think, our intervention) ... and ... not being present at all. </div><div><br></div><div>So as a facilitator (and I also teach but I see myself more as a learning facilitator in those moments) - I feel I definitely do have responsibility to support and act - it is the *way* I do so that either erases someone else's ability and capacity or gives focus to it.</div><div><br></div><div>Like being as I call it a 'conscious non-interventionist' during the Open Space.</div><div>Or offering reasons or lessons learned about invitation strategy to the client in the pre-work phase but not doing it for them or making those decisions for them. </div><div>Like helping the client design how they will collect documentation in a way that will help them and their participants reflect and review post-OSonOS event. </div><div><br></div><div>To me it is all more learner-centered / participant-centered / client-centered than facilitator-driven.</div><div><br></div><div>Bernardo - you make me fondly miss Mozambique, where I facilitated over several years using Open Space and other participant-driven dialogue processes and then - as we all do in Open Space particularly - got out of the way to be amazed... </div><div><br></div><div>Abraços</div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; 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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><span>Yes, Bernardo, you are right. </span>Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to fish and also help learning how to learn. </span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned - many people think (and do) <span style="font-weight: bold;">"facilitate too much"</span>, disempowering the other and making more difficult for him to learn by himself.</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">And your story in Mozambique (Beira) is marvelous.</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Abraço</span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"><br></span></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Artur </span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>