Hoj, Hello Gijs,<div>thank you for your appreciation of our joint invitation. I guess we understand the fact that you cannot attend.</div><div>To answer your questions.</div><div><br></div><div>1) The "Stammtisch" is an old German beer house tradition, has a genuine OST format when it comes to topics. The difference to OST is, that we have a table in midst of the circle to hold the beer and the food. For me it means as commented by Anne Carolina in a former response that I take the liberty to quote:</div>
<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"Ich sehe Menschen zusammenkommen, die andere einladen, Bekannte, Familie oder Kollegen mitbringen und sich gemeinsam über's Leben und Selbstorganisation austauschen. Außerdem sehe ich Menschen, die ihr Wissen über die 4-5 os Prinzipien austauschen.<br>
Ich sehe ne Menge Kreativität, ein Gefühl von Gemeinschaft und Freiheit.<br><br>Augen auf, mit Überraschungen ist zu rechnen!" My rather liberal translation is:</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I see people get together, joined by the ones they invited, friends, acquaintances, family members or colleagues to exchange their thoughts and experience about life and self organisation. Further I see people share their knowledge (and experience) about the 5 to 5 principles of OST. I see a lot of creativity, a sense of community and freedom. Keep your eyes open for surprises.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">In that sense Brigitte and I would like to create with our invitation a Space in which the rest would evolve.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">2) It is our first Stammtisch, so unfortunately you will have to wait for our experience to be reported here. I am sure Michael Pannwitz, probably the most experienced Stammtisch-er has something to contribute here, in case he reads this post.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">3) Yes, everybody pays their own consumption.</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Good luck for your Shanghai version maybe with Chinese beer instead of the Franconian one!</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Beste wensen, Best regards,</span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Peter</span></div>
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<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/1/27 Gijs van Wezel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gijs@megainternational.com.hk" target="_blank">gijs@megainternational.com.hk</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Peter,<br>
<br>
Unfortunately I cannot attent in Furth. I would have loved to learn from your<br>
experience. Probably I will try to get together people "who care" in Shanghai.<br>
Therefore, I have some questions about the format of the stammtisch in general?<br>
<br>
1) is there a topic in the invitation or are people asked to raise topics in the<br>
circle/tisch?<br>
2) what is the experience of former meetings in terms of number of topics<br>
related to participants, simultanuous sessions or more one round table<br>
discussion.<br>
3) practically, I assume people pay for their own consumption?<br>
<br>
Looking forward to any suggestions.<br>
<br>
Gijs van Wezel, MSc<br>
Facilitation of Empowering Meetings<br>
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Shanghai, China<br>
<a href="tel:%2B86-15921806910" value="+8615921806910" target="_blank">+86-15921806910</a><br>
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Quoting Stanley Park <<a href="mailto:spark.osk@gmail.com" target="_blank">spark.osk@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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> Wahaha... how lovely<br>
><br>
> spark<br>
> 2012. 1. 26. 오후 8:06ì— "Michael M Pannwitz" <<a href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.org" target="_blank">mmpanne@boscop.org</a>>ë‹˜ì ´<br>
> 작성:<br>
><br>
> > ...did you invite Kissinger?<br>
> > mmp<br>
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> > On 26.01.2012 09:25, Peter Weinmann wrote:<br>
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> >> Hello Harrison,<br>
> >> I am very sorry for not to be explicit. We are on the Western European<br>
> >> continent, Germany and the federal state Bavaria/Franconia. Fürth is<br>
> >> the birth place of former 56ht US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.<br>
> >> It would be great if you were to come and join us.<br>
> >> Best regards,<br>
> >> Peter<br>
> >><br>
> >> 2012/1/25, Harrison Owen<<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>:<br>
> >><br>
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> >>> Subject: [OSList] First "Shtamtysh" Stammtisch in the Franconian<br>
> >>> Metropol-Region Erlangen/Fürth/Nürnberg<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Brigitte Hoffmann and I would like to invote all spaceniks in the<br>
> >>> region as well as the one who are visiting it to a first OST<br>
> >>> Stammtisch. We would like it to be a sort of germinal OST cell of our<br>
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> >>> On the 29th, February 2012 we have a table at:<br>
> >>> „Werners Bistro“ in Fuerth at 18:15. The table is close to the window<br>
> >>> on the name of Hoffmann.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Further Information can be found.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>><br>
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