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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'>Birgitt:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'>Can you give an example of what you are seeing as dogma?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'>Best regards and happy new year,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'>Esther (Ewing)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype","serif";color:#993366'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Birgitt Williams<br><b>Sent:</b> January-04-12 4:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Byron Katie Work in Business and Leadership - February in Amsterdam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In early years of learning OST from Harrison, I found that he was emphatic that he did not want to do anything that created ‘dogma’. In the years since then, I have watched what I believe is the creation of dogma by people who become involved with OST. I am not judging this. I am fascinated by how it happens despite an intention to avoid it. Dogma seems to be created by the stories that are told, retold, remembered, and passed on until they become ‘truth’. I have been fascinated for most of my life by the power of myth, story, and patterns that humans use to create personal and collective operating systems. I have watched myth, story, and patterns develop amongst those who work with OST. I have watched as some things appear to have evolved to being ‘dogma’, the very thing that Harrison wanted to avoid. I don’t believe it could be avoided despite best efforts because people have a tendency with myth, stories and patterns to create dogma. I have found this development in this community of people to be quite fascinating as it has been an intentional study for me based on what Harrison wanted to set into motion. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As well as personal use of the Work by Byron Katie, I find it very helpful to use for business and group work. What happens if as a community of people who embrace Open Space and Open Space Technology, that we make frequent use of: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is this true?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How do I know this is true?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Two of the great questions in The Work. If we apply even these two questions in our conversations about OST and open space, I believe we could remove ourselves from what could be perceived as ‘dogma’. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Caitlin, thanks for bringing Byron Katie’s work forward…and Suzanne…have fun with it all…humor is a key to the great discoveries I am sure you will find.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Blessings to all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Birgitt Williams<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com">www.dalarinternational.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzanne Daigle<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Byron Katie Work in Business and Leadership - February in Amsterdam<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Dear Caitlin, <br><br>Strange coincidences happen in life sometimes or maybe it's all just meant to be. As I immersed myself more and more into Open Space, peeling the layers of what it invited in me and seems to invite in so many others, I often felt myself to be "truly not good enough" as a facilitator and in others roles. Not fun and quite painful. Oh indeed that little voice of judgment was alive and well! <br><br>It is one thing to intellectually understand "letting go", "not controlling", not expecting "outcome", but to live the "being of it" is a whole other kettle of fish. If it is said that Open Space is like coming home. The coming home for me has been a coming home inside myself, surfacing stuff that ain't always pretty, that can feel quite confusing, frustrating and actually kinda depressing sometimes. Of course, on the other side of that is lots of bliss and joy. <br><br>So like everything else, I decided to tackle the "let's fix me" and figure this out. (grin! grin!). Someone had mentioned Lynne Forrest's work to me <a href="http://www.lynneforrest.com/html/the_faces_of_victim.html" target="_blank">http://www.lynneforrest.com/html/the_faces_of_victim.html</a>. On the Drama Triangle which is an integral part of her work, I could easily see myself as the "born rescuer" which is really just another form of "victim". Funny how much society reveres rescuers, fixers and having all the answers -- an exhausting way to live and lead or worse, an arrogant way to be as if people can't take care of themselves! Lynne speaks of "Victim Consciousness" based on Dr. Stephen Kharpman's work and "Observer Consciousness" which is about Bryon Katie work. <br><br>Now finally to get to the point of "<b>the coincidence" </b>with your email Caitlen, well that morning as I was reading Lynne's book, she recommended downloading Byron Katie's worksheets at the same website you mentioned : <a href="http://www.thework.com/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.thework.com/index.php</a>. I had printed the sheets quickly thinking I would look at them later and then that evening your email came. I read it quickly without giving it a second thought. <br><br>Later that night, Byron Katie's name came back into my consciousness and I had this nagging little thought. "No, I said to myself, it can't be!". An email that connects OS and Byron Katie? I rushed to my computer to read your email. Could it have been the same name? It was! Like wow, what a coincidence! Well I sure was paying attention now. Felt like the universe was giving me another whack on the side of the head...AGAIN!<br><br>Another "be prepared to be surprised" moment in my life which has been happening a lot since Open Space -- never really noticed stuff like that before, too busy fixing, rescuing and being my corporate self. Now coincidences seem to happen all the time and in those simple acts of synchronicity, I just feel so connected with the universe and life. <br><br>Yes it's been said that facilitating Open Space is a life long journey. I'm on this journey now, welcoming whatever shows up, the hard parts and fun parts. Living more in the now, less in the past and the future. <br><br>By the way I then Googled Caitlin on this OS list and saw earlier emails of hers talking about Byron Katie. Others in our community had added their voice of support to this wonderful work and how well it fits with Open Space, with facilitation, etc. Just goes to show that sometimes we're not ready to see or hear. I wasn't ready then but I sure am ready now. So thank you Caitlin.<br><br>From a very grateful, Open Space colleague! Perhaps others will take a second look at your email following my very long "up close and personal" story. A wonderful way to start 2012!<br><br>Suzanne<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Caitlin Frost <<a href="mailto:caitlin.frost@gmail.com" target="_blank">caitlin.frost@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello friends,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>For any of you interested in the Work of Byron Katie - as a powerful tool for working with limiting beliefs, and opening mind and heart in leadership, organization and change, she is hosting a first ever intensive in The Work for leaders and people in business. It is taking place in Amsterdam - February 8th to 11th. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have found this work to be profoundly powerful in supporting my practice as a facilitator and host - and very aligned with Open Space. For me it supports opening space in my own mind and heart - so that I can invite and hold that space with others more fully. It is a brilliant tool for working with fear and attachment to outcome, and opening to possibility in places that feels stuck. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>And Byron Katie is quite an amazing person to have the opportunity to experience live. I am sure it will be very engaging with many opportunities to bring your self and work into this deep practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>More info here: <a href="http://www.thework.com/events.php?eid=94#94" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0065CC'>http://www.thework.com/events.php?eid=94#94</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Maybe I will see some of you there!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Happy New Year,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Caitlin.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>-- <br></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6600CC'>UPCOMING WORKSHOPS in the transformative inquiry process of The Work: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6600CC'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Being Peace</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6600CC'>, Salt Spring Centre of Yoga, April 13 - 15, 2012; <i><a href="http://goog_407455611" target="_blank">Beyond Belief</a></i><a href="http://www.windhorsefarm.org/pages/programs-events/beyond-belief.php?utm_source=Windhorse+Farm+List&utm_campaign=d3b9498abc-Early_Winter_2012_at_Windhorse_Farm&utm_medium=email" target="_blank">, Nova Scotia</a> May 4-6, 2012; </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6600CC'><a href="http://caitlinfrost.ca/workshops/the-work-at-work/" target="_blank"><i>The Work </i>at work. What is Holding You Back?</a> Edmonton May 26 & 27, 2012<br><a href="http://www.caitlinfrost.ca" target="_blank">www.caitlinfrost.ca</a></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#6600CC'><a href="http://berkana.org/berkana_events/aoh_utah/" target="_blank"><b><span style='color:#009900'>The Art of Participatory Leadership</span></b></a></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#009900'>,</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#006600'> Utah, February 8th - 11th<br></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#3333FF'><br><b><i>If you really knew how beautiful you are, <br>you would fall at your own feet.</i></b></span><span lang=EN-US><br><i><span style='color:#3333FF'>Byron Katie.</span></i><span style='color:#3333FF'> </span><br><span style='color:#888888'><br>CAITLIN FROST<br>Coaching and Facilitation<br>Certified Facilitator - The Work of Byron Katie<br>Principal - Harvest Moon Consultants Ltd.<br><a href="http://www.caitlinfrost.ca" target="_blank">www.caitlinfrost.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" target="_blank">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Suzanne Daigle<br>NuFocus Strategic Group<br>7159 Victoria Circle<br>University Park, FL 34201<br>FL <a href="tel:941-359-8877" target="_blank">941-359-8877</a>; <br>CT <a href="tel:203-722-2009" target="_blank">203-722-2009</a><br><a href="http://www.nufocusgroup.com" target="_blank">www.nufocusgroup.com</a><br><a href="mailto:s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com" target="_blank">s.daigle@nufocusgroup.com</a><br>twitter @suzannedaigle<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>