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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Thank You! </SPAN><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Your words have reinforced my thoughts and queries. And of course I didn't mean for anyone to become rankled (thanks again, this is a new word for me!) or hijacked!</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">I am very much a supporter of TM myself, as I know the process is suited, and does work for many.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">To put more context on the case, our organisation runs its own TM club, and I also look after a small community within the same organisation. The idea of a joint event just came about in casual conversation with one of the TM comm<VAR id=yui-ie-cursor></VAR>ittee members, as an opportunity for networking and collaborated learning amongst the communities and bringing about a better understanding of an area of interest or concern. It is certainly agreed that there is only a 'limited' amount of learning (or direction) that can be obtained within 1.5 hours.</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">So, back to one of my original questions: </SPAN><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">how a balance can be made between the 'chaos' of OS and the 'rigidity' of TM?</div></SPAN>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Maybe there is none...</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Regards,</SPAN></div>
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<div style="RIGHT: auto"><SPAN style="RIGHT: auto">Tim.</SPAN></div>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">I'm a TMer who helped found a club five years ago and I absolutely LOVE OS. I'm sorry. I think you are mixing modalities that don't belong mixed. For a way over the top analogy it's a bit like asking a synagogue to host a Eucharist. </DIV>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">Toastmasters and OS have completely different goals. Yes, Toastmasters structure is rigid. The structure works.. It creates opportunity for practice and evaluation in predicable and expected ways. For the shy, un-selfconfident, and low self-esteem folks who find their way to Toastmasters the structure is supportive and helpful. I always marvel how the structure allows for such a deep amount of learning and practice.. </DIV>
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<DIV>OS on the other hand is about communication with others to find common ground and envision a new direction for a difficult problem/issue/project. It rewards those who know how to write an intriguing session title, who can speak up, etc. Over time perhaps it is rewarding to the those with less hutzpah but I don't believe it would in a short 1.5 hr meeting regularly attended. </DIV>
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<DIV>By all means host a real OS with members of a Toastmasters club but do it outside the regularly scheduled meetings.** And do you really think "what is a competent leader" is a difficult question to which no one knows the answer? </DIV>
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<DIV>Argh! You've got me really rankled. I hope I've been clear. </DIV>
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<DIV>** I'm concerned about the leadership dynamics. Some people may be excited by OS - but the very folks who most need and want what Toastmasters offers may be unwilling/unable to voice objections to having their club hijacked. </DIV>
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<DIV>Happy New Year everyone. I wonder whether it means anything that this is my first email of 2012? </DIV>
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<DIV>On Jan 1, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Tim Lam wrote:</DIV><WBR>
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<DIV id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_132539016244443><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_132539016244469>Thanks Michelle, </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_1325390162444221>Happy New Year all!</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624441116><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_1325390162444732>TM primarily uses prepared speeches and table topics (impromptu speech) to promote public speaking skills. In order to be certified at the first level (CC - Competent Communicator) one has to give 10 speeches (project) whereby each speech has a different objective e.g (1. ice breaker, 2. organize your speech, 3. get to the point, 5. your body speaks..) and the evaluation of each has a different checklist e.g. Evaluation to organise your speech would include:</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624443378>Speech value - interesting, meaningful</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624444288><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624443528>Preparation - research, rehearsal<VAR id=yiv1385190702yui-ie-cursor></VAR><VAR id=yiv1385190702yui-ie-cursor></VAR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624443615>Organization - logical, clear</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624443753>Opening - attention-getting, led into topic</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624443925>Body - flowed smoothly</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624444018>Conclusion - effective</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624444096>Transitions - appropriate, helpful</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_13253901624444283><SPAN>T</SPAN><SPAN id=yiv1385190702yui_3_2_0_170_1325390162444299>he rigid format of TM means that each evaluator is given a checklist according to the CC guide, ie role in session, and speech they may be evaluating:</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=yiv1385190702MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Closing Remarks and Announcement</FONT></SPAN></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
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<DIV>As far as previous OS sessions are <VAR id=yiv1385190702yui-ie-cursor></VAR>concerned, the agenda would be approximately:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=yiv1385190702MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Opening Cirle, the theme, the principles, the law,</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV>I was considering to change the format slightly:</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=yiv1385190702MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman">Opening welcome by TM, introducing the changes in this "joined up" format</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV>The time for the group discussions may need to be reduced accordingly and I was thinking the thinking the closing circle may be changed to focus on a report-back format. The report back may be from the group convenor or just anyone who attended the group. As for voting maybe just a show or hands, use of sticky dots to vote on topic, and present 'prize' to topic convenor? TM usually present ribbons to the best speaker, table topic speech... at the end of each session. (<A href="http://www.toastmasters.org/MainMenuCategories/Shop/Awards/BESTSPEAKERRIBBONSETSETOF10534.aspx" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.toastmasters.org/MainMenuCategories/Shop/Awards/BESTSPEAKERRIBBONSETSETOF10534.aspx</A>)</DIV>
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<DIV>As for theme, probably somewhere along the lines: "How can we best become competent leaders? What are the issues and how can they be best addressed?"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Michele Frankel <<A href="mailto:frankelmichele@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:frankelmichele@gmail.com">frankelmichele@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Tim Lam <<A href="mailto:timkylam@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:timkylam@yahoo.com">timkylam@yahoo.com</A>>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <<A href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, December 31, 2011 11:18 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [OSList] Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster<BR></FONT><WBR></DIV>
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<DIV>No suggestions, but I would love to attend.</DIV>
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<DIV>On second thoughts , I have one suggestion , a far more detailed ckeck list to consult with , for evaluation.</DIV>
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<DIV>Best wishes for the New Year.</DIV>
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<DIV>As a distant spacer and located within the corporate (no names mentioned) world, we recently ran a 2 hour OS taster, faciliated by our dear friend Mark Pixley (Thank<VAR></VAR>s again Mark!). It was really well received and the feedback extremely positive given the 'short' time period and the session being held after normal office hours.</DIV>
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<DIV>It is great to see more discussions and fantastic advice on 'mini-sessions', however I am planning to run a joint session with a Toastmasters (TM) club! Without going into too much details about the TM 'philosophy' and hopefully not to offend any TM'ers. TM aims to improve speaking and leadership skills by running 'speech projects' which are timed and evaluated.</DIV>
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<DIV style="RIGHT: auto">What are ones thoughts on how a balance can be made between the 'chaos' of OS and the 'rigidity' of TM?</DIV>
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<DIV>Although the session may not be run for a few months (their time is booked for the next two) I thought it may be interesting to see ones points of view. The main question is still brewing but I'm thinking about a 'Leadership', as TM run 'Competent Communication' and 'Competent Leadership' certifications. Any suggestions for 'the' question?</DIV>
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<DIV>Tim.</DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV><WBR><WBR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>OSList mailing list<BR>To post send emails to <A href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</A><BR>To unsubscribe send an email to <A href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</A><BR>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<BR><A href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><WBR></DIV><WBR><WBR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>_______________________________________________<BR>OSList mailing list<BR>To post send emails to
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