<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv419416161"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div id="yiv419416161"><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507790"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_132411742950750" id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507791"><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family:
Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hi Birgitt:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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I think you are making confusion between (1) the methodology "Open Space
Technology" and (2) some books that present it - or elaborate based on it.
So let me clarify what I was saying.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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1. The methodology "Open Space Technology" <b>is not</b> copyrighted
- nor trademarked. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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1.1. Indeed, it is the fact that OST is not trademarked that allows others to
"combine" OST with other methods and trademark the all “package”. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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2. To be a facilitator of OST <b>there is no "certification"
needed</b>; anyone can begin using it and later learn more through reading
books, attending OST events, following courses or attending OSonOS events. As
Harrison putted it "Experience has shown that any individual with a good
head and a good heart can achieve satisfactory results". This is IMHO a
"foundation" of OST so important as the circle, the market place, the
law, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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2.1. Using OST in certification processes violates, in my opinion, this OST
"foundation".<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">3. What is copyrighted is Harrison Owen's book "OST - A User's
Guide", published by Berrett-Koehler - as well as other books
"related with OST" that he and others have published in traditional
book publishers. Nevertheless, it must be noted that:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">3.1. The first version of "OST - A User's Guide" <b>is not
copyrighted</b> and <b>can be downloaded free of charges </b>from: <a href="http://openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm"><span style="color:purple">http://openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm</span></a>.
And it still is a good beginning.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">3.2. All books published in traditional book publishers are
copyrighted; <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">3.3. When the first edition of the User's Guide was published
by Berrett-Koehler, the concept of copy left (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft"><span style="color:purple">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft</span></a>),
applied to software or books, as well as the concept of Creative Commons (<a href="http://creativecommons.org/"><span style="color:purple">http://creativecommons.org/</span></a>; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons"><span style="color:purple">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons</span></a>)
did not yet exist. Also, self-publishing sites (like, for instance, <a href="http://www.lulu.com/"><span style="color:purple">http://www.lulu.com/</span></a>,
among many others) did not exist yet.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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3.4. "OST" is not licensed as a "Creative Commons" license;
hence if OST was copyrighted/trademarked, using it as part of other methods,
would be not only unethical, but also illegal (if the OST legislation is
similar to others that I know better).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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If you still have doubts about what I think, please ask. If you are clarified about
that, then we can conclude that there is indeed a difference of opinions. But
differences of opinions are always happening in organizations and communities -
and more so when the space is open - and are not necessarily a bad thing…<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Regards<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br></span></div><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Artur</span></div><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br></span></div><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">--------------</span></div><div id="yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_18_132318155812843"><span><br></span></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">From:</span></b> Birgitt Williams <birgitt@dalarinternational.com><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Artur Silva' <arturfsilva@yahoo.com>; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:26 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking<br></font><br>
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<div class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170254 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507484">Dear Artur,</span></div>
<div class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170255 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507486">I have some confusion about what you are saying about copyrighting. All books pertaining to OST including the User’s Guide, which defines OST, are copyrighted. All of Harrison’s teaching powerpoints about OST are copyrighted. I personally think this copyrighting was essential. Copyrighting can be perceived as a responsible way of the author to protect the materials, names, processes etc for the use of anyone who cares to use this material…freely. If Harrison had not copyrighted these materials, it could have been problematic in that someone else might have come along and copyrighted them….and then restricted their use…and it would definitely have had a negative impact on this entire OST community. So, personally, I thank HO for copyrighting.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170262 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507498">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170263 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507500"> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking</span></div></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170264 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507502">Peggy (also Birgitt, Harrison and all):</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170267 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507508">In what concerns Emery and Trist, they are most known from their experiences at the Tavistock Institute in the UK, where they begin talking about "socio-technical systems" - that Enid Munford later used to understand (Organizational) Information Systems Requirements Analysis and Design, using the "ETHICS" approach.</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170269 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507512">What I didn't know (and discovered from a completely different reason - searching for predecessors of the "Chaordic Systems Theory" - CST), was that Emery also used Open Systems Theory, that he abbreviated to OST. </span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170271 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507516">In the Wikipedia page you mentioned, Peggy, it's written:</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170273 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507520">Sociotechnical systems</span></b><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170274 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507522"> is one part of a comprehensive theoretical framework called <b>Open Systems Theory (OST)</b>. Two of Emery's and Trist's key publications were: "The Causal Texture of Organisational Environments"<b> (1965)</b> - which became a citation classic - and "Towards a Social Ecology" (<b>1972</b>). These publications are the groundwork on which Fred Emery developed OST.</span><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170275 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507524"></span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170277 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507528">So I think that Emery use of OST has no relation with Open Systems Technology and was probably used first. </span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170279 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507532">But that is more of a "curiosity" than anything else: even if "Open Space Technology" was copyrighted the acronym wouldn't be, I presume. </span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170281 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507536">But if OST was copyrighted or trademarked it would be a completely different animal, of course. <span class="yiv419416161apple-style-span">For me the non-copyrighted nature of Open Space Technology is one of its "</span><b>foundations</b><span class="yiv419416161apple-style-span">". I would never be interested in OST if it was copyrighted and had any "certification programs" associated...</span></span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black;">The term open systems theory was used by Ludwig von Bertalanffy in the 1950's.</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black;">Emery and Trist started using the term in the 1960's.</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR:black;">On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Birgitt Williams wrote:</span></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:white;" class="yiv419416161MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif; " class="yiv419416161ms__id170311 yiv419416161yui_3_2_0_20_1324117429507594">Looking deeper into the website, Artur, it is not at all clear who these people with OST (Open Systems Thinking) are. What they have at one point in their documents, however, is an article by Emery about Open Systems Thinking with reference that it is OST. I find this odd because Emery, also a highly regarded thought leader in organizational development, is well aware of OST as Open Space Technology.</span><span style="COLOR:black;"></span></div></div>
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