<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Peggy (also Birgitt, Harrison and all):<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br>Bertalanffy spoke about "General Systems Theory" - the tytle of
his most known book - where he talked mostly about "Open Systems". I
never heard that he used the expression "Open Systems Theory", and he
never used, as far as I know, acronyms - so he never used OST.<br></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">In what concerns Emery and Trist, they are most known from their
experiences at the Tavistock Institute in the UK, where they begin talking
about "socio-technical systems" - that Enid Munford later used to
understand (Organizational) Information Systems Requirements Analysis and
Design, using the "ETHICS" approach.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">What I didn't know (and discovered from a completely different reason -
searching for predecessors of the "Chaordic Systems Theory" - CST), was that
Emery also used Open Systems Theory, that he abbreviated to OST. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">In the Wikipedia page you mentioned, Peggy, it's written:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><b>Sociotechnical systems</b> is one
part of a comprehensive theoretical framework called <b>Open Systems
Theory (OST)</b>. Two of Emery's and Trist's key publications were: "The
Causal Texture of Organisational Environments"<b> (1965)</b> - which became a
citation classic - and "Towards a Social Ecology" (<b>1972</b>). These
publications are the groundwork on which Fred Emery developed OST.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">So I think that Emery use of OST has no relation with Open Systems
Technology and was probably used first. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">But that is more of a "curiosity" than anything else: even if "Open Space Technology" was copyrighted the acronym wouldn't be, I
presume. </span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><br></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">But if OST was copyrighted or trademarked it would be a completely
different animal, of course. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; ">For me the non-copyrighted nature of Open Space Technology is one of its
"</span><b style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; ">foundations</b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; ">". I would never be interested in OST if it was copyrighted
and had any "certification programs" associated...</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Best<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Artur<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">PS: Another curiosity is that if one searches in Google for "Open
Systems Institute" the first entry is no longer a Canadian
environmental organization (as I pointed out to you, Peggy, some time ago), but
one of the enters corresponds to </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">The
Institute for Open Systems Technologies Pty Ltd </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> (<a href="http://www.ifost.org.au/">http://www.ifost.org.au/</a>)
- an IT company... So, as Harrison pointed out, there is no use in defending the indefensible... <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; "> </span> <br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "> </div><div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br></div> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Peggy Holman <peggy@peggyholman.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 12, 2011 11:26
PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking<br> </font> <br>
<div id="yiv695783803"><base><div>Birgitt,<div><br></div><div>The term open systems theory was used by Ludwig von Bertalanffy in the 1950's.</div><div><br></div><div>Emery and Trist started using the term in the 1960's.</div><div><br></div><div>Peggy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Birgitt Williams wrote:</div><br class="yiv695783803Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="yiv695783803Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium; font-family: Helvetica; "><div lang="EN-US"><div class="yiv695783803WordSection1" style=""><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Looking deeper into the website, Artur, it is not at all clear who these people with OST (Open Systems Thinking) are. What they have at one point in their documents, however, is an article by Emery about Open Systems Thinking with reference that it is OST. I find this odd because Emery, also a highly regarded thought leader in organizational development, is well aware of OST as Open Space Technology.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Ah
well. As Harrison says, OST is not trademarked. However, all of his books including Open Space Technology are copyrighted (also a legal designation). And despite the copyrighting, it is not worth defending as OST is out there sufficiently in the world as Open Space Technology already.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">One reason that I am such a stickler about using ‘Open Space Technology’ rather than the shortened form ‘Open Space’ is that there is even more confusion about ‘Open Space’ as applied to this
meeting method since Open Space as a term was used long before OST came along…especially in architecture and landscape architecture. I think that the more we all are careful about mentioning ‘Open Space Technology’, the more that there is a common recognition of a fabulous meeting facilitation method.</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Birgitt</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div><div style="border-right-style:none;border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-color:initial;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);border-top-width:1pt;padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org]<span
class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Harrison Owen<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 12, 2011 10:45 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking</span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "> </div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Never heard of them. Thank God I never patented or trademarked
OST. Just imagine all the trouble I would be in defending the indefensible – or something. Much more fun just to give it all away. And you certainly meet incredibly interesting people<span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Wingdings; ">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">ho</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in;
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org]<span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Artur Silva<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, December 12, 2011 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>OSLIST New Adress<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span>[OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking</span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in;
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: serif; "> </div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Hi:</span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Have any of you ever heard about this?</span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 19.5pt; color: black; text-transform: uppercase; letter-spacing: -0.75pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">OST -<span class="yiv695783803Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.thelightonthehill.com/" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;"><span style="color:rgb(210, 160, 3);font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none;">OPEN SYSTEMS THINKING</span></a>:</span></b><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
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style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Interesting...</span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; ">Regards</span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color: white; font-family: serif; "><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; "> </span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; background-color:
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