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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Peggy. Did they also refer to it as OST?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Blessings,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Birgitt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peggy Holman<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2011 6:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Birgitt,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The term open systems theory was used by Ludwig von Bertalanffy in the 1950's.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Emery and Trist started using the term in the 1960's.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peggy<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Birgitt Williams wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looking deeper into the website, Artur, it is not at all clear who these people with OST (Open Systems Thinking) are. What they have at one point in their documents, however, is an article by Emery about Open Systems Thinking with reference that it is OST. I find this odd because Emery, also a highly regarded thought leader in organizational development, is well aware of OST as Open Space Technology.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ah well. As Harrison says, OST is not trademarked. However, all of his books including Open Space Technology are copyrighted (also a legal designation). And despite the copyrighting, it is not worth defending as OST is out there sufficiently in the world as Open Space Technology already.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One reason that I am such a stickler about using ‘Open Space Technology’ rather than the shortened form ‘Open Space’ is that there is even more confusion about ‘Open Space’ as applied to this meeting method since Open Space as a term was used long before OST came along…especially in architecture and landscape architecture. I think that the more we all are careful about mentioning ‘Open Space Technology’, the more that there is a common recognition of a fabulous meeting facilitation method.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Birgitt</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Harrison Owen<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, December 12, 2011 10:45 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Never heard of them. Thank God I never patented or trademarked OST. Just imagine all the trouble I would be in defending the indefensible – or something. Much more fun just to give it all away. And you certainly meet incredibly interesting people<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ho</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Camden, Maine 20854</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(summer) 207-763-3261</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Artur Silva<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, December 12, 2011 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>OSLIST New Adress<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[OSList] OST - Open Systems Thinking</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Have any of you ever heard about this?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:19.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;text-transform:uppercase;letter-spacing:-.75pt'>OST -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.thelightonthehill.com/"><span style='color:#D2A003;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none'>OPEN SYSTEMS THINKING</span></a>:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:19.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black;text-transform:uppercase;letter-spacing:-.75pt'><a href="http://www.thelightonthehill.com/"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;text-transform:none;letter-spacing:0pt;font-weight:normal'>http://www.thelightonthehill.com/</span></a></span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Interesting...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Artur</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>