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That is what the Law of Two Feet is for.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ho <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Camden, Maine 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(summer) 207-763-3261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.openspaceworld.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skye Hirst<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:13 PM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography. I'd like to explore your question of how does what he did in his self-centered ways, lead to such productivity and quality of result? Where is the Open Space and self-organization? Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only be himself. His "subjective aim" was in focus for him within himself and he and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with that vision. There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose" and it is contagious I believe. it also acts as inspiration for others to act in ways that call out "being on purpose/true to yourself" insisting on what is truth for your being nature. But there is an even deeper nature that provides coherence for this process and that's just being discovered - there are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what Harrison and so many here speak and point to that they experience through Open Space processes. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When people are called together under these conditions, something wonderful can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in the words of Whitehead. This is the creative process of life becoming = it connects us to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act in concert with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be joined with others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater purpose that has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see in the Apple environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant in the vision. If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek together." There is a value sense of satisfaction as we fulfill our own uniqueness of being and sense the connection to a greater whole. Any environment that creates such conditions for life - is as Harrison says, "how life works if we let it." <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs new language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of talking about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how life creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out beautifully that "process IS reality" - a value sensing process and as we share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover hopefully the bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and connectedness. Thanks for reading this far, Skye<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his successful life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT product systems.<br><br>Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative design and mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app developers who can count on a consistent operating system across products. This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you know will work on phones iPad or iPod my son says. <br><br>Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create the products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the details of his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term assh*le applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who did not appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was open to learning as long as it came to be his idea.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>His vision “opened space” for those who would work at their top level to realize it. When they didn’t he was mean and spiteful. And many didn’t understand his view of good design together with good technology. He was used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided the hubris to move forward. The space of silicon valley with its nutrient rich environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it possible for Apple to get going. His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the self development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his own vision.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and became followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it stumbled. It certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior products that then set the model for the others to come. Will Google and Microsoft be able to catch up? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone and project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are more costly. I think the book is a great read .<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at the beginning – maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy leadership to emerge? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Toronto, Ontario, Canada</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com">larry@spiritedorg.com</a> 416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OSList mailing list<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Zapfino","serif";color:navy'>Skye Hirst, PhD</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:red'>The Autognomics Institute</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:green'>A Living World-view; the nature of reality</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:skyeh@autognomics.org">skyeh@autognomics.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.autognomics.org">www.autognomics.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Twitter @autognomics<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>