On what you say I totally agree! Thx for the nuanced clarification. S<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Harrison Owen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Suzanne wrote: “I love it when the wall stays exactly as it is when, messy with topics all over. More often than not, organizers, hosts or participants come order the mess. It seems the tug of order and control is too great; somehow I just love the creative energy of it the other way but I never say a thing about it. I just let whatever happen, happen. My job is picking up coffee cups.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Nothing wrong with a movement towards Order, I think. After all if that (order) never happened, we would not be here. But to be really effective, it is always a dance… order to chaos…chaos to order, and around we go again. The only time we get into serious problems is when we become stuck on one or the other. When that happens, the dance is over. Dances do end, but it is sad when they end prematurely, I think. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Suzanne Daigle<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 25, 2011 7:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] Signing up for sessions<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">A few reasons I have loved the signing up, from the physical rubbing of shoulders as people write their names, all at the same time, bumping into each other, craning their neck to see, up high on their toes for some, as they watch the names populate the "big white sheets". Sometimes, they need to gently push their way through and often I see them taking a second look when lots of names appear there. I cannot know what motivates where they will sign up; I just know that there is a lot of freedom and choosing starting to happen; something that doesn't often happen in our traditional world. <br>
<br>And finally, I also feel the great joy of those who step forward, many for the first time in their own leadership, talking out loud, announcing a topic and then realizing how many were attracted and signed up. It's the first validation that yes, my ideas do matter! And to know that others are seeing it too is also exhilarating in an ego/non-ego sort of way. And then, all day, through the event it feels that the wall, a marketplace with lots of topics and people whose names appear are all interconnected and interwoven. The beginning of community and collaborative action is on that wall.<br>
<br>I smile remembering my young 10-year-old niece posting her topic "How can I help the earth" attracting 3 adult men, one a PhD scientist, another a senior account, and then her 32 yr old cousin. She still talks about that event. She's 12 now. I have pictures of her post with the names and pictures of her capturing the summary notes, participating as much as they much older guys. <br>
<br>I have felt the signing up energy at the wall most as a participant. When I am the facilitator, I always escape away from the marketplace wall, somewhere in some far off corner of the room so that people can self-organize in this beautiful first chaos. I will have shared about this chaos ahead of time with the host and will have mentioned it as I opened space that it will be messy but fun! The hosts and leaders often struggle when they experience this for the first time and I always hope they might remember that we talked about it during our planning sessions -- the benefits, the self-organizing and yes the mess and leaving it as it is<br>
<br>Afterwards...later I walk back to the wall, often taking photos, and I feel such energy on that wall. The photos after the event is over, bring the essence of participation, they show a life with great topics and many people having signed up as if to say: "I'm in!" <br>
<br>I love it when the wall stays exactly as it is when, messy with topics all over. More often than not, organizers, hosts or participants come order the mess. It seems the tug of order and control is too great; somehow I just love the creative energy of it the other way but I never say a thing about it. I just let whatever happen, happen. My job is picking up coffee cups.<br>
<br>And then for the matter of the higher-ups in the hierarchy whose voices are the ones who are most often heard -- those who get to create and invent topics on how we run the organization, I can't tell you how often it has happened that fewer names appear on their sheets. I have not seen a pattern where people rush to sign there. Somehow it feels as if there is a moment of decision where people are truly starting to feel equal and deciding what matters most. I have seen reflective leaders and experts; even felt their disappointment that fewer than they expected signed up for their topics. They seem to do a second take, shifting inside then looking again at the topics on the wall. There is leadership on that wall, unfiltered leadership in the making, not as interpreted by others which is the way of our hierarchy. It is the first taste a the leadership that will emerge over the course of their event. It starts at that bazaar wall.<br>
<br>So perhaps some will say I read too much into this. And perhaps I do but because I have worked in the traditional organizations for so many years and have heard the pain and longing of people wanting to engage in the big issues/topics of the business and not being invited. I have witnessed the hesitancy of people to speak up and speak out often never going beyond that fear. I know that each little piece and morsel of this very simple and magical process of Open Space can be so powerful. Under the surface of a marketplace wall and the Law of 2 feet, major shifts start to happen. <br>
<br>So in terms of one less thing to do, I plan to continue to place the cups on the floor with the waiting pens. And on the safety side, because yes, I have worried about having pens on the floor rolling all over, I started putting bunches of them in many big red plastic cups along the wall and seems that people get the idea. They sign up and put the pen back in the cups.<br>
<br>Oh how I love this process of Open Space; thanks for reminding me again through this wonderful post.<br><br>Suzanne<br><br><br><br> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Ulrika Eklund <<a href="mailto:ulrika.eklund@telia.com" target="_blank">ulrika.eklund@telia.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I smile when I read your fourth point. The struggle. I recognize it myself. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> Its so easy to get going and trying to guess what people want and don’t want. Also easy to start to try to read peoples thoughts. Starting to value. And the only thing that happen is that I myself get frustrated. Instead of holding the space, trusting the people that follow their passion and responsibility. Nowadays when I let go and trust – the outcome is amazing and it’s so much more energy saving </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Wish you all a great weekend</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ulrika </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Från:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>För </b>Rob van der </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="SV">Eyden<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 23 november 2011 12:08<br><b>Till:</b> 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Ämne:</b> Re: [OSList] Signing up for sessions</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hello all,</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I still wanted to share some of my experiences in the Open Space I facilitated a couple a weeks ago. The event was a ‘Veranderdiner’ (Changediner) that we organize a couple a times a year for a network of people interested in behavioral change. Topic this time was: ‘What can I do to make the world a better place?’. About 20 people showed up.</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We had positive reactions on the event, lively conversations, new people met. Valuable experience gained in facilitating an Open Space. All good. About the Open Space ‘technique’:</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:38.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We asked the participants to set up the circle of chairs for them self. Worked really well.</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:38.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The agenda we had lying on floor in the middle of the circle. After a short introduction, I asked the participants for their topics / sessions. Lot of (very diverse) topics were raised, each put an a paper. Each paper was put somewhere at the agenda, but mostly not at a specific location / timeslot. That was probably because I did not put post-its on the agenda, that could be taken by everyone that wanted to host a session (so will do that next time). So we ended with a stack of topics suggested to be discussed, but no agenda yet…</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:38.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So on to ‘signing up’: based on the discussion on the OS List, I decided to ask the participants to sign up for the topics they were interested in by putting their name on that paper. Result? Nobody did that, but the buzz did certainly get going. And probably a bit different than it should, because we did not have clear topics assigned to location/timeslot. I ‘managed to’ leave it to the group to figure it out. There were some participants that started trying to organize the whole thing (“let’s do it like this…”), but in some way several groups formed about some topics (which were probably all different from the ones posted in the first run) and they got to work and have a good time.</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:38.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I did feel some struggle within me during the event. Before we got started one of the participants told me about a (to me very good and clear) topic he wanted to discuss, but for some reason he did not raise it in the group, but chose to raise another topic (to me very vague). I felt some regret, decided to let it go, but when another topic related topic came up, I did make a reference. That went nowhere, so probably I should have stayed out in the first place. Later when I listened in to some of the conversations, I got the feeling that some participants were more involved than others, so I started wondering ‘why don’t they use their 2 feet?’ and ‘should I remind them about that possibility?’ I did not. Any other experiences on that? I had the idea that participants still feel it as not done / not polite to leave a session… Guess I am still trying to find the balance letting the group do it themselves and trying to influence / taking care of the participants </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:38.25pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#1f497d">·</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We closed with a nice ‘talking stick’ closing circle with warm reactions. </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So probably I did not do it all by the book, but still I look back to a great event and am looking forward to try again ;-)</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Again: thank you all for sharing your thoughts on signing up earlier.</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best regards, Rob </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Van:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>] <b>Namens </b>Rob van der Eyden<br>
<b>Verzonden</b></span><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="NL">:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="NL"> dinsdag 8 november 2011 21:30<br>
<b>Aan:</b> 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSList] Signing up for sessions</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="NL"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Wow! How good to see how ‘alive’ this open space community is. Thank you all for all your valuable thoughts on signing up. I will try to find my way based on your suggestions and I will share my experiences with you afterwards.</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best regards, Rob</span><span lang="SV"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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