<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi, Dan -<div><br></div><div>Whether small or large groups, it sounds like there are some very specific interpersonal dynamics going on here.</div><div><br></div><div>Open Space - and all dialogue work - is so much more than the meeting itself or the method used. And the meeting is an event that is part of a living system and a chain of interactions, events and behaviors, right?</div><div><br></div><div>Upon reflection - do you feel there is anything you could have done differently in the invitation, the nature of invitation, in doing all your investigation work as you analyzed before choosing the dialogue tool (objectives, context, culture, what will happen before and after, underlying issues and events, how this event fits into the culture or work plan or interaction of a group, power dynamics...) and those million other things one investigates, designs for, takes into consideration and receives information about as part of the pre-work? </div><div><br></div><div>And: do you have any reflections about the way you open and frame things and introduce the task folks are working on for the day - your languaging, the way you create the invitational space - that you might do differently?</div><div><br></div><div>I am not saying that you are the reason for any of this. But of course there are many times when we cannot change a system or a situation - however we can change our own way of naming, interacting, navigating. And as Open Space is more than the tasks of Open Space - as it includes the facilitator's pre-work, interaction with client, extensive pre-work and yes as you are saying, presence during the event itself. Perhaps there are things you felt you did really well and things you noticed in these realms?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers from Córdoba,</div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 14px; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; "><div style="display: inline !important; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#811107" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(155, 44, 1); display: inline !important; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; 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font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#811107" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(155, 44, 1); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-size: 11px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); "><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: medium; font-weight: normal; "><div style="display: inline !important; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#811107" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(155, 44, 1); display: inline !important; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-size: 11px; "></span>Lisa Heft</span></div></span></font></span></font></i></span></font></div></span></b></span></div></span></span></div></span></font></span></font></i></span></font></div></span></b></span></font></div><div>Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">Opening Space</font></b></span></div><div><a href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</a></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; font-style: normal;"><br></span></font></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 68, 254); "><span><i>Ask me about these 2011 workshops for facilitators and others who convene people: </i></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 68, 254); "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#2E7B19" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><i><br></i></span></font></span></font></div></i></span></font></span></i></span></font></div></div></div></span></div></span></span></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></div></span></div></span></div><div><div>On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:03 PM, Dan Mezick wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I am writing the community to find out if you have seen this pattern with smaller Open Space meetings. I am asking because I am 2 for 2 with this pattern, when the group is less than 16 people.<br><br>1. They play along at the Open<br>2. They look at the marketplace and notice it is all mostly one subject<br>3. They all decide to meet for this 'one big session' (self organizing)<br>4. It starts to zoom in on authority, and have a tone of challenging/questioning the formal authority, usually the Director/ Team Lead role<br>5. It causes some anxiety, mixed feelings/a problem for the facilitator<br>6. What happens next is anyone's guess<br><br>Questions:<br><br>1. Have you seen this<br>2. Is this a commonly understood pattern<br>3. If you have experienced this, when you experience it, what do you do... in that spot<br>4. If I ad facilitator judge the situation as "tipping into chaos", is it bad form to intervene<br><br>Staying out of it is more than a little difficult to do. A range of feeling comes up as facilitator...<br><br>Summary:<br><br>They self-organize, into one big session. They just all decide to do this, (so far, looks OK per OST ground rules...) then it takes on this dump-on-authority tone. The tone can be considered insubordinate to some observers and participants. The "discussion" is usually well within the stated theme for the OST meeting.<br><br>This appears to be a small-group pattern. I have no idea what the upper end of the range might be, I have seen it in groups up to 16 people.<br><br>Your wise counsel is requested, if you have directly experienced this.<br><br>Regards,<br>Dan<br> </div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>