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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bernd – Wonderful! And best of all I have been hoisted on my own petard, trapped by my own words. As a fierce advocate of Occam’s Razor and of its practical application, “Thinking of one more thing not to do,” how could I possibly think of a 5<sup>th</sup> principle? And I confess that as I engaged Claudia in conversation and subsequently wrote about it – I did my very best NOT to think about adding such a thing. But my best was not good enough, and the 5<sup>th</sup> Principle snuck in just like the others did – in spite of my better judgment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My problem was/is that it appeared as a blinding flash of the obvious. It had always been there. I had just never noticed. But did I really have to say it? Good question. And here is my best shot at an answer. I think my failure in perception was due to the fact that I had narrowed my gaze to the more particular business of “organizing” Open Space Events. In all those events the four Principles are operative and useful to point out for the assembled body. The question of “space/place” always seemed more like a logistical detail which certainly should be considered, but hardly worthy of public attention.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The ground shifted underneath me as Claudia and I talked when I became increasingly aware that our Open Space events were but sideshows to the major events, all of which occurred “out there.” Most importantly they could and did occur “anywhere” in places not of our choosing or design. Anywhere would do! To the extent that our next step is to see space opening as an going, natural phenomenon – we need to reverse our normal order of business. So long as we concentrate on “Doing an Event” – it is logical and necessary that we should determine the venue prior to start. In other words we must find or create the place of meeting before we can get together. What else? However, in the world at large this procedure seems to be stood on its head. Space opens and THAT defines/creates the venue!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The 5<sup>th</sup> Principle could help us to avoid missing all the truly great Open Space of the world simply because they don’t have a “proper” venue as we might understand “venue.” So if you were to ask was Tahrir Square an Open Space I suspect the immediate answer from a lot of people would be No. After all the venue was not pre-determined, people did not sit in a circle, and for sure you could not find the facilitator. Case Closed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Anyhow, the 5<sup>th</sup> Principle branded my consciousness against my will. It had the positive (I think) effect of drawing my attention to the Big Open Space of our experience, in addition to the little events that we might convene. The prospect is pretty scary, but the possibilities are more than a little breathtaking. The new questions are unending – but they might begin with a simple musing – (as I said in my previous post). Just suppose you were standing in Tahrir Square, what could you do, based upon our prior experience, to enhance that occasion for the people involved in that Grand Open Space? I really don’t have a clue about the answer, but I can foresee a marvelous adventure. Open Space II…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So do we really need a 5<sup>th</sup> Principle? I don’t know. And for sure I wouldn’t waste time convening a council of the wise to make the determination. Personally, I am just stuck with it, as I was with the preceding 4. Blinding Flashes of the obvious that I just couldn’t avoid. Will than make sense to anybody else? Who knows?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.openspaceworld.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org"><span style='color:blue'>http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bernd Weber<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> World wide Open Space Technology email list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSList] The 5th Principle / Sardinia<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Harrison and all who started commenting on the 5th principle:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes and No is my opinon:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>---<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>in the sense, that your are right, H. of course: wherever it is, is the right place.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And when I read what you told about Claudias story, it reminded me of other places where similar things happened, maybe not at this scale but still. Europeans will still remember Christiania. The free town in Scandinavia.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I still remember the Vienna ARENA 1976 , Hundreds of young people flooding an area with historically interesting buildings (old slaughterhouse of Vienna), when the town wanted to sell it. They simply did not leave and for several months a space was open. People danced, feeled responsible for "everything" and "everybody"....ok, I do not want to go into details ( & my romantic memory) here. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For me personally it was one of two events, that influenced my further life because they gave (mathematically spoken although not at all an abstract thing;-) An experiential PROOF OF EXISTENCE. At that time I said: By participating got the proof that FREEDOM does exist and that people can self-organize in a way to nurture it and increase it. Nowadays I could also say: I got the proof that OPEN SPACE exists and that people can......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>All the ingredients had been in place Mainly extreme (1)diversity of people, a (2)sense of urgency, a (3)common vision (in that case of a free place for the young people to express and continue creating their culture (in contract to high-culture) and (4) enough space that this diversity could express itself in lots and lots of sub-groups without being forced together in an unnatural way. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(Just to mention the second PROOF OF EXISTENCE that influenced my life: That was being part of the first Austrian free school for 10-15 year olds (Eltern-Schüler-Lehrer-Kooperative Wien) and so getting the experienced proof that free education is feasable and not only a dream. So I then survived the praxis shock in the regular school system, to which I then transferred the methodology and basic attitude from the free school in my role as a highschool and univ. teacher.)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Since Open Space is everywhere, although not visible when under the weight of externally managed communication of people (by rules, laws, manager, facilitators, you name it), it seems to be Evident (although not necessarily "logical") that this feeling&this way of self-organization of OS comes up. People in the Commune of Paris did it the same way, as far as we know. It is expression of all MOVEMENTS for Freedom at similar points, because... well, I think, no because necessary. Its these moments and periods in time/history, when the frozen structures (in the heads) become fluid, when ICE becomes WATER. And therefore<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>YES of course: WHEREVER IT IS, is the right place<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But here comes my <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>NO:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I want to differentiate between implicit and explicit. I can easily accept that the RIGHTPLACE thing is or might be an implicit principle.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But my question is: why do we make the 4 principles explicit and tell the people before going to work in OS?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The answer: (all of you know it, I suppose:) Because this has the function to get rid of bad habits from the ICE context, that inhibit self-organization when they dominate/hegemonize the heads!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Principle-telling by a facilitator is an intervention with a function at the beginning of an OS event. It is not a set of knowledge in the classical sense. If you look at them, they are from one point of view: evident/trivial, from another point of view they are absurd. And their truth is deep and completly superficial at the same time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And this evidenttriviality & absurdness produces the tension/the contradiction that makes them a helpful intervention. They are the ICE braker for an OS, although not in the traditional way, ICE brakers are used by classical trainers and facilitator (those we do not need at all in OS, of course)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Whoever Comes is the right People.</span></span>" works against the idea, that people need to be homogeneous, that there has to be a set of access criteria, that people have to have a certain level, a certain minimum age, be specialists, not be blind......etc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have"</span></span> facilitates to be prepared to be surprised and inhibits the classical: well if this and that would have been different, I would have invested my energy here, but so.... So as a principle it is a tool against not taking responsibility<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Whenever it starts is the right time" </span></span>helps to stay free from "time scheduled un-spontaneity" helps to wait until the right feeling is in the room. Helps to give priority to deal with interfering things that suck your energy if you do not care for them (like not going to the toilet, because it is 30 seconds before START;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>When it is over, it is over" </span></span>To make this principle explicit helps to notice that everything has been done although the time is not yet "up", it helps to organize a continuation or an extra session if important things are undone, although there is no more scheduled time for it....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(Of course the refined way of expressing these principles in the various languages gives some more and some more subtle support for healthy communication that the usual habits of communication by the "well-educated" in various cultures (nearly in all cultures, it is a rule that you give the resource "time for talking" to the powerful even if they abuse this.....but fortunately we have one LAW).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So, of course this 5th "principle" makes us aware, that Open Space does and did happen at places, we never would have thought, like Harrisons story about Claudias story made clear to me, that there have been many OS events in revolutionary movements throughout history, alright. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But wherever we open space in the sense of OST. There are no other, places. There is only a HERE. So whats the use ot make "Wherever it is, is the right place" a fifth principle?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And there is a very nice meta-principle that Harrison repeatedly used, and I think it IS important: "Let us think about one less things to do". The meta-principle of minimal intervention, the old great idea of Occhams rasor.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So my conclusion is:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yeah, great storytelling. And maybe some more understanding of "underlying things" with regard to Open Space, but we do not need to have a 5th principle and to bother future participants with such a principle that does not help to inhibit bad habits of communication in Open Space.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Bernd/Bernard </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Colombo/Sri Lanka</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br>Bernd Weber<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Change Facilitation s.r.o., </span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#144FAE'>A Global Partner Who Makes Change Happen in Complex Environments; <a href="http://www.change-facilitation.com">www.change-facilitation.com</a>, <a href="http://www.change-management-toolbook.com">www.change-management-toolbook.com</a> <a href="mailto:bernd.weber@change-facilitation.org">bernd.weber@change-facilitation.org</a>; (</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>iPhone Austria: +43 664 135 4828</span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#144FAE'>, landline + 431 5968657); Sri Lanka landline +94 11 2785859, </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blue'>iPhone Sri Lanka: +94 777740757,</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>NEW: Intensive Learning Workshop <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Playing with the Waves of Change" <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.change-facilitation.com/">www.change-facilitation.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>You want to have the design for a "Playing with the Waves (of Change) WS 2 completely taylor-made according to your individual learning interests & needs & limitations? 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class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 24.05.2011 um 16:29 schrieb fischer florian:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Harrison,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>»Wherever it is ... and if it´s within the own brain ... is the right place«.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You practiced it actually <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>by accepting the diappearance of Claudia´s last name<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>opening space for the next step.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A hug<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Florian<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Florian Fischer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com">ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.begleitung-im-wandel.com/">www.begleitung-im-wandel.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Münchener Straße 6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>10779 Berlin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Fon (030) 2116752<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am 23.05.2011 um 23:31 schrieb Harrison Owen:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Monaco","serif"'>..</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>. A special gift for me was a series of extended conversations with Claudia, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>whose last name has disappeared in my senile brain. ....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>NOW – the new one. “Wherever it is, is the right place.”<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>..... it will take us to some places we have never been. I’m ready.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>And if Claudia will reveal her last name, I would be deeply appreciative. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Not to say thankful, for she gave me a great gift.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> .....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>