<html><head><base href="x-msg://48/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree with you Harrison, and thanks to Michael for these many dedicated years of looking out for our list and <a href="http://openspaceworld.org">openspaceworld.org</a>. Harold, well done chiming in with a crisp solution. <div><br></div><div>Can we go the OSI route and see if it remains a simple option?</div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 2010-12-01, at 12:33 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Harold – will the OSI/US Listserve handle our archives? If so this is a no-brainer so far as I can see. Go-OSI for sure.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">ho<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; 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margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Harold Shinsato<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:45 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">Hi Michael,<br><br>Thanks for all your research on this. There's another option to consider. The Open Space Institute for the US has managed to start using the free and open source list serve software that runs and looks almost exactly like the current ListServe for free using a generous web hosting company that gives out web host services to U.S. 501(c)(3) organizations.<br><br>It takes very little administration - as the Web Hosting company provides a one click install for the "Mailman" program, which is the List Serve software which is widely used:<br><br><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html</a><br><br>And there is even a path to maintain the logs for browsing and searching in a similar way to how they are searchable and browsable now. It would take a little techie work - but I'd be happy to help with that.<br><br>Even if we didn't want get help from a current 501(c)(3) organization (which would make it free) going with this kind of solution would only cost about $100 US a year.<br><br> Harold<br><br>On 12/1/10 10:47 AM, Michael Herman wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><br>1. the oslist will cease to exist in its current form not later than june of next year. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>2. boise state is migrating their own lists to googlegroups<br>3. boise state is NOT migrating any archives (so we're on our own with that)<br>4. our archives will be delivered to us on a single CD<br>5. they will be in the form of 150 monthly log files (roughly, 12 months x 12 years)<br>6. these monthly files can be read easily in any text editor<br>7. they can be read less easily when opened directly in a web browser application<br>8. the BEST way to keep the archives and the list going is another l-soft listserv host org<br>9. finding another listserv host organization is something anyone can help with... now!<br>10. we already have<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@googlegroups.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">oslist@googlegroups.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>set up, so that's available if/when we want to use it<o:p></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; ">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Harold Shinsato<br><a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">harold@shinsato.com</a><br><a href="http://shinsato.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://shinsato.com</a><br>twitter:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/hajush" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">@hajush</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; color: black; "><span style="color: windowtext; ">* * ==========================================================<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div>* * ==========================================================<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>*
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