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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=SV link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sounds wonderful simple solution, to me – also a non-techie guy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Big big thanks for looking after this challenging situation for us, Michael and others! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hugs<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas Herrmann<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Från:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>För </b>Chris Corrigan<br><b>Skickat:</b> den 1 december 2010 21:49<br><b>Till:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b>Ämne:</b> Re: oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree with you Harrison, and thanks to Michael for these many dedicated years of looking out for our list and <a href="http://openspaceworld.org">openspaceworld.org</a>. Harold, well done chiming in with a crisp solution. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Can we go the OSI route and see if it remains a simple option?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>----<br>Chris Corrigan<br><a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a><br>http://www.chriscorrigan.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2010-12-01, at 12:33 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harold – will the OSI/US Listserve handle our archives? If so this is a no-brainer so far as I can see. Go-OSI for sure.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ho</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>USA</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>(Personal Website)</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a></span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Harold Shinsato<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, December 01, 2010 1:45 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Hi Michael,<br><br>Thanks for all your research on this. There's another option to consider. The Open Space Institute for the US has managed to start using the free and open source list serve software that runs and looks almost exactly like the current ListServe for free using a generous web hosting company that gives out web host services to U.S. 501(c)(3) organizations.<br><br>It takes very little administration - as the Web Hosting company provides a one click install for the "Mailman" program, which is the List Serve software which is widely used:<br><br><a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html">http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html</a><br><br>And there is even a path to maintain the logs for browsing and searching in a similar way to how they are searchable and browsable now. It would take a little techie work - but I'd be happy to help with that.<br><br>Even if we didn't want get help from a current 501(c)(3) organization (which would make it free) going with this kind of solution would only cost about $100 US a year.<br><br> Harold<br><br>On 12/1/10 10:47 AM, Michael Herman wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'><br>1. the oslist will cease to exist in its current form not later than june of next year. <span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>2. boise state is migrating their own lists to googlegroups<br>3. boise state is NOT migrating any archives (so we're on our own with that)<br>4. our archives will be delivered to us on a single CD<br>5. they will be in the form of 150 monthly log files (roughly, 12 months x 12 years)<br>6. these monthly files can be read easily in any text editor<br>7. they can be read less easily when opened directly in a web browser application<br>8. the BEST way to keep the archives and the list going is another l-soft listserv host org<br>9. finding another listserv host organization is something anyone can help with... now!<br>10. we already have<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@googlegroups.com">oslist@googlegroups.com</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>set up, so that's available if/when we want to use it<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:black'>--<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>Harold Shinsato<br><a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com">harold@shinsato.com</a><br><a href="http://shinsato.com">http://shinsato.com</a><br>twitter:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/hajush">@hajush</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>* * ==========================================================<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>* * ==========================================================<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>* * ========================================================== OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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