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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Judy Gast – sometime denizen of OSLIST -- sent me the
following. Her’s is a story most of us can tell. I responded as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>“Great to hear from you! And some folks will never hear.
Really hearing would destroy a lot of what they hold to be immutable truth
– Like they are in control and should be. So you take the opportunities
where you can. I can imagine a group of teachers invited by you to see the
video. Just watch their reactions. Note especially the one(s) who say “Oh
Shit – YES.” Go from there.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>ho<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.openspaceworld.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Judy Gast
[mailto:jgast@sympatico.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 24, 2010 5:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: self organized learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Harrison,
I watched the video and it is fascinating. With now 8 and 12 year old
children, I can see how their little brains pick up on stuff - automatically -
when they are interested and engaged (me sticking a computer in front of them
and employing the 'grandmother' methodology helps is enabling.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Coincidence
that you should send this today. Last night I had a particularly
frustrating evening facilitating a breakout group at the Mississauga Summit, a
large 'Community Development' initiative sponsored by our very famous 89 year
old mayor Hazel McCallion (who will be elected for another four year term in
October). It was a waste of time. If only, I could have
convinced them to try Open Space....</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Many
'big wigs' in government, local NFPs, and business came out to 'support the
cause'. There were meticulously prepared welcome packages, corporate
sponsored 'gifts', grandiose speeches about the 'issues'.... and then folks
were asked to move to the group that they were 'most aligned to' to
'engage in dialogue about the issue'. With the preamble about how we (the
sponsors of the four groups) are here to 'listen'. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>When
25 or so people came to the group I was assigned to (volunteer)</span>, it
turned into the usual. Those with issues/causes that were near and
dear to their hearts advocated and grandstanded, while others engaged in the
'you should have looked at this aspect of the problem'... The issue sponsors
'listened' and defended their positions and plan and all looked to me as 'the
facilitator' to 'control' the conversation. Needless to say I was
not the only one frustrated.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
shared Open Space with the high level sponsor, a corporate guy who doesn't see
to be able to see beyond his model, as this is the fourth such event that he
has organized. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have sent articles, case studies, gave a presentation on 'Open Space and
Civic Engagement' (spoke to Kai Degner a while back and heard about his
Summits) and am struggling with what I can I do to bop them on their heads so
they get it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The
weather is beautiful in Ontario.. a nice sunny summer day....we are going to
take the 69 Chevelle convertible out for a spin and hit a local eatery with
some friends.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hope you are having a great day.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Fondly,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Judy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>P.S.
Last week I was on Long Island, off the coast of Portland, Maine
with a dozen women I graduation from Williams College with in 1981! We
all look exactly the same!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
title="hhowen@verizon.net">Harrison Owen</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com" title="chris@chriscorrigan.com">Chris
Corrigan</a> ; <a href="mailto:mmpanne@boscop.de" title="mmpanne@boscop.de">Pannwitz,
Michael M</a> ; <a href="mailto:phelim@improbable.co.uk"
title="phelim@improbable.co.uk">Phelim McDermott</a> ; <a
href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" title="michael@michaelherman.com">Michael
Herman</a> ; <a href="mailto:elilius@halhinet.on.ca"
title="elilius@halhinet.on.ca">Eric Lilius</a> ; <a
href="mailto:geoyang@hsdinstitute.org" title="geoyang@hsdinstitute.org">Glenda
Eoyang</a> ; <a href="mailto:bushe@sfu.ca" title="bushe@sfu.ca">Gervase Bushe</a>
; <a href="mailto:gm@openspace.dk" title="gm@openspace.dk">Gerard Muller</a> ; <a
href="mailto:icataiw@ms69.hinet.net" title="icataiw@ms69.hinet.net">Gail West</a>
; <a href="mailto:gabriela.ender@OpenSpace-Online.com"
title="gabriela.ender@OpenSpace-Online.com">Gabriela Ender</a> ; <a
href="mailto:ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com" title="ff@begleitung-im-wandel.com">Fischer,
Florian</a> ; <a href="mailto:elwinandjoan@yahoo.com"
title="elwinandjoan@yahoo.com">Elwin Guild</a> ; <a
href="mailto:dhorrigan01@comcast.net" title="dhorrigan01@comcast.net">Don
Horrigan</a> ; <a href="mailto:Dickenson,%20Dee" title="Dickenson, Dee">Dickenson,
Dee</a> ; <a href="mailto:dwcox@astate.edu" title="dwcox@astate.edu">David Cox</a>
; <a href="mailto:dkropf@dkropf.com" title="dkropf@dkropf.com">Daniel Kropf</a>
; <a href="mailto:Christy_Owen@dai.com" title="Christy_Owen@dai.com">Owen,
Christy </a>; <a href="mailto:cckloth@earthlink.net"
title="cckloth@earthlink.net">Chris Kloth</a> ; <a
href="mailto:Catherine.Crim@microsoft.com" title="Catherine.Crim@microsoft.com">Catherine
Crim</a> ; <a href="mailto:brucenixon@waitrose.com"
title="brucenixon@waitrose.com">Bruce Nixon</a> ; <a
href="mailto:blundeen9@comcast.net" title="blundeen9@comcast.net">Bruce Lundeen</a>
; <a href="mailto:ann@learningfriends.com" title="ann@learningfriends.com">Ann
McCormick</a> ; <a href="mailto:andrew@babelfishgroup.com"
title="andrew@babelfishgroup.com">Andrew Rixon</a> ; <a
href="mailto:deehock@comcast.net" title="deehock@comcast.net">Dee Hock</a> ; <a
href="mailto:henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net"
title="henri.lipmanowicz@verizon.net">Lipmanowicz_Henri</a> ; <a
href="mailto:tzimtzum@earthlink.net" title="tzimtzum@earthlink.net">Aitken,
Jeff</a> ; <a href="mailto:john@johnengle.net" title="john@johnengle.net">John
Engle</a> ; <a href="mailto:judir@accesswave.ca" title="judir@accesswave.ca">Judi
Richardson</a> ; <a href="mailto:jgast@sympatico.ca" title="jgast@sympatico.ca">Judy
Gast</a> ; <a href="mailto:Kai.Degner@gmail.com" title="Kai.Degner@gmail.com">Kai.Degner@gmail.com</a>
; <a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com" title="larry@spiritedorg.com">Larry
Peterson</a> ; <a href="mailto:lisa@groupjazz.com" title="lisa@groupjazz.com">Kimball,
Lisa</a> ; <a href="mailto:meg@megsalter.com" title="meg@megsalter.com">Meg
Salter</a> ; <a href="mailto:nancywolfberg@comcast.net"
title="nancywolfberg@comcast.net">Nancy Wolfberg</a> ; <a
href="mailto:psully@edc.org" title="psully@edc.org">Paul Sully</a> ; <a
href="mailto:pvaill@phd.antioch.edu" title="pvaill@phd.antioch.edu">Peter Vaill</a>
; <a href="mailto:anotherthought@gmail.com" title="anotherthought@gmail.com">Steven
"Doc" List</a> ; <a href="mailto:Viv%20McWaters%20(Business%20Fax)"
title="Viv McWaters (Business Fax)">Viv McWaters (Business Fax)</a> ; <a
href="mailto:patoitextiles@gmail.com" title="patoitextiles@gmail.com">Patricia
Black</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Friday, September
24, 2010 4:40 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> FW: self organized
learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You are receiving this because you are on the short list of
friends and colleagues who I think might enjoy. Pat Black posted a marvelous
video on OSLIST which gets to the heart of something that is very close to my
heart (mind and whatever). In the way of forwarded emails you will find my
response followed by Pat’s posting. To make any sense out of it, you need
to reverse the order. And for sure you need to see the video. It blew my mind
and I hope it blows yours. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Have fun!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Harrison<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>7808 River Falls Dr.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal
Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Harrison Owen
[mailto:hhowen@verizon.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 24, 2010 3:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'OSLIST'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: self organized learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pat – Much more than fascinating, it is absolutely
brilliant. Truly it brought tears to my eyes arising in part because of the
consummate simplicity of the learning experiment and its powerful result
– but even more because it epitomizes precisely what I believe we as a
community should be about. And it is not just about the education of children,
important though that may be. The possibilities are larger involving virtually
every aspect of the human endeavor. We have had the privilege of witnessing the
power of self organization at work doing things that most of our fellows, who
have not had that experience, will consider to be impossible. Open Space may
have provided the door way through which we might consciously enter the
self organizing world. But that is simply a beginning and the best is yet to
come. The first step is to push beyond the narrow focus on OST as a method or
“tool” – to begin to apply the central understandings to the
vast array of human undertakings – finance, marketing, food production,
scientific research, and on and on. Each application will be different and
experimental, even as the video you posted was different and experimental. And
we cannot do it alone, but we can be a powerful yeast that raises up some
marvelous new loafs of bread. I confess that over the past few months as I have
been reading OSLIST, I have totally enjoyed the warmth of the community and our
willingness to support each other as required – holding space for a
venture. But I have also longed for something more and deeper. And Pat, I think
you might just have opened a way. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Harrison <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pat Black<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 24, 2010 11:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> self organized learning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Here is a link to a TED talks video that describes open space
learning. It is pretty fascinating.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Pat Black<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html">http://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_the_child_driven_education.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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