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Hi Annamarie,<br>
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I had the same thought. I've actually run three Barcamps but I ran
them with true Open Space facilitation. I've not actually been to a
"normal" Barcamp - but I've had first hand reports. Although there
aren't any preset presentations by the conference facilitators,
there is heavy peer pressure on the attendees to present. The friend
who had been to Boston BarCamp said all the sessions were 30 minutes
long powerpoint presentations - and she was afraid when she came to
Missoula BarCamp that there would be the same pressure.<br>
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It's very cool that the BarCamp format is fully open and people can
bring their slides - but if it doesn't use Open Space facilitation -
it isn't as free flowing, it doesn't invite as many questions or
conversation. It's why Kaliya calls it a bunch of Alpha Geeks
rushing at the blank wall to grab the best spots.<br>
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Harold<br>
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<div>As always a cogent and interesting response. More or less
what I expected. Except that what I experienced seemed to me to
be less work than the opening circle, statement of principles
and law, and then opening of the marketplace. So I'm not clear
about how OS is less work than an unconference. </div>
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<div>To Kari's question. The unconference I attended had maybe 15
round tables holding 8 people apiece. People sat where ever.
Traditional introductions (we may have gone around the room?),
and thank you's to organizers. Statement of the four time
periods and an invitation to convene a group if you wanted. The
wall was outside in the hall. It became apparent to me that
for each time session there was at least one person who had a
prepared talk by prearrangement. I learned some stuff but
certainly didn't feel permission to leave a session if I was
uninterested. It was all about Twitter and therefore many
people had their heads into their iphones and such as they
twittered about what was happening. That's a different way of
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– Unconferences have been around for a bit and as
I remember some of the earliest unconferencers
included the likes of Michael Herman. So if there
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experiment in which we all are learning how to
operate most successfully in a self organizing
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Unconference to be one such experiment. Measured
against the simplicity of what might be called
“classic Open Space” (sit in a circle, create a
bulletin board, open a marketplace – Go to work) I
find the Unconference to be overdone. In short
they are working much too hard! This isn’t wrong,
just inefficient. However, measured against the
standard conference, an Unconference is truly a
breath of fresh air. In conversations with
unconferencers I suggest that they have made a
very good start – and now why not think of one
more (maybe many more) things not to do? If we (I)
have learned anything in this adventure it is that
organizing a self organizing system is a
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"unconferences." I've not seen a discussion of
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
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been to one "unconference" and was told about
another by a colleague who understands OS. Neither
had the careful opening that I think is the core
of making OS work. I have had people say "Oh I've
been to an Open Space meeting" and when I probed,
discovered that it was an "unconference" not OS. <o:p></o:p></div>
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