<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Really good points, Chris.<div><br></div><div>I use the bells only as part of my initial opening of the space and then to open the closing circle. I often use them before participants arrive to condition and charge the space as a lot of venues have cluttered energy or low energy. I've found ringing them in the corners of the room and in the center of the space (and anywhere else that intuition says needs a lift) helpful. (Again, I do this before other participants arrive, as part of general set up.)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Wendy</div><div><br><div><div>On 8-Jul-10, at 9:35 AM, Chris Corrigan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Bells can get overused and can lose their appeal and charm, so use them infrequently and with the pacing and mindfulness that Lisa and Wendy both suggest.<div><br></div><div>Also, be careful how you pick them up. I find that the bells reveal one's inner state like nothing else. If you pick them up without consciousness, and you grab the cord in the middle, they clatter and ring and crash and lose their power, and you will find yourself embarrassed and apologetic. In all things balance is good, but not in picking up ting sha. If you pick up the bells by the cord holding them closer to one end or the other, the bells won't collide. That way when you finally do ring them the sound will have been previously unheard and therefore more powerful.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, something I have learned working in Native communities here in Canada...if there are a lot of Elders in the room, the bells will often remind them of the time they went to Church-run residential schools which were resulted in very traumatic experiences for many many people. As a result I rarely use bells anymore in these contexts, preferring instead to call people back together with a drum or some other more appropriate attention-getting sound.</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">----<br>Chris Corrigan<br><a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a><br><a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br><br></div></span></span> </div> <br><div><div>On 2010-07-07, at 8:57 AM, Lisa Heft wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I bow to you, Ms. Karolina.<div><br></div><div>I only know what I have noticed.</div><div><br></div><div>1) If you ring them 'to let people know things) - for example to signify the change in time for sessions - you are actually breaking into peoples' thought process. And there are always enough timepieces (electronic and otherwise) that people have and even clocks on the wall, plus session convenors' interest in their next sessions - to let people know in a participant-centered (rather than facilitator-driven) way when the time is shifting. So when I do it, I only ring them at one certain time - to draw peoples' attention to the fact that Closing Circle is beginning. When I introduce how the day will go (usually after they post their topics on the wall), I include the fact that I will not be telling them about time, that they have these timepieces, but that I will see them in Closing Circle at ''x o'clock" and that I will be in the room if they have any questions. And when I use them this once - they really capture peoples' attention, because they have not over-heard it. If I am not mistaken, the fabulous Elwin Guild uses one ring of his bells after the very last comment / all is over at the end of the event. Elwin, would you like to share how you use your bells?</div><div><br></div><div>2) I 'ding' the bells about 4 to 6 times, letting the full sound of each ding run out, before I start the next ding. I breathe. And I find the dings are much like a graceful breathing.</div><div><br></div><div>3) If it is a very large venue I hold them up to a microphone.</div><div><br></div><div>4) Some people hold them like cymbals (the 'faces' on vertical planes opposite each other); some people hold them both facing down, next to each other (lightly holding the straps so as to not affect the sound), and touch them to each other. This last method is my method.</div><div><br></div><div>5) When buying them - ideal is to go to an actual store (a Tibetan store for example) to listen to the music and tone of each set of bells, to feel which is the one set that speaks to you.</div><div><br></div><div>6) I went to great lengths to make a connecting piece that was not the original leather - so that I could put things on it that meant something to me. It turns out that it can affect the sound and can stretch and I am wondering if perhaps keeping the original simple leather piece might be best. Although mine is still the way I created it and I enjoy how it looks.</div><div><br></div><div>What do others do and know about their bells and their use of them?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers from a gray California morning,</div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; 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font-weight: bold; ">Lisa Heft</span></div></span></font></span></font></i></span></font></div></span></b></span></font></div><div>Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">Opening Space</font></b></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</a></div><div><a href="http://www.openingspace.net/">www.openingspace.net</a></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><br></i></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 68, 254); "><span><i>Ask me about the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(46, 123, 25); ">The Power of Pre-Work</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><span><i> </i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><i>workshop for facilitators -August 18-20, 2010 - San Francisco</i></span></span></i></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 68, 254); "><span><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><i>and the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(46, 123, 25); ">Open Space Learning Workshops</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><span><i> </i></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px; "><i>- October 15-18, 2010 - Medellin, Colombia and December 15-17, 2010 - San Francisco</i></span></span></i></span></span></i></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 68, 254); "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF"><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0044FE"><br></font></i></font></div></i></span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; "><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; font-style: normal; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-style: italic; ">Join me on OSLIST - the World Open Space community in conversation (English) <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#007F00">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</font></span></font></a></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px; color: rgb(23, 0, 255); font-style: italic; ">and at the Open Space World Community space (all languages) <span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 127, 0); font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline; "><a href="http://openspaceworld.ning.com/">http://openspaceworld.ning.com</a></span></span></font> </span></span></div></span></span></div></span></div></span></i></span></font></div></span></i></span></font></div></div></div></span></div></span></span></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Karolina Iwa wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">from facilitating wikisym2010 in gdansk, poland,<div>i am writing with a question:</div><div><br></div><div>many of us - including me - use temple bells during os events to attract participants attention.</div><div>anybody knows the full code of respectful use of the bells?</div> <div><br></div><div>i would appreciate your contributions to decreasing my ignorance.</div><div>thank you in advance for sharing.</div><div><br clear="all">karolina.<br><br><br><br>____________________________________<br> <br>karolina iwa.<br><br>trainer & facilitator<br>collective intelligence & self-organisation<br><br>D: +49 15774 932139 PL: +48 880 747578<br>____________________________________<br><br> </div> * * ========================================================== <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>: <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a></blockquote></div><br></div></div>* * ========================================================== <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>: <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a> </blockquote></div><br></div></div>* * ========================================================== OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu: <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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