<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">Hello everybody,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">Yesterday was holiday in Portugal (the "Day of
Portugal", btw), so I have been able to read</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"> </span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">all the posts</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"> to this list, from this last 3 weeks, that I had
not the time to read yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">The problem of how to use "computer tools"
to support (in full or in part) an OST-like meeting is something that always
interested me, due to my background in Information Systems and my (long
lasting) current interest in "Organizational Learning" and the role
that OST can have in enhancing OL.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">But I was stressed by the first posts that could seem
as if wikis were the last word in "computer tools to support OST-like
meetings" (and they are not any longer) and some of the others posts that
suggested other tools that IMHO are also far from being full platforms or even
being adequate for the purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">This also relates with the fact that in many meetings
an old and awful tool (group phone call) is still used when there are lots of
better alternatives.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">If someone wants to discuss this more general subject,
I will contribute too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">Artur <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;
mso-fareast-language:PT">PS: See also my next post please<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><br><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Danilo Kozoderc <danilo.kozoderc@skavt.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, June 7, 2010 7:12:28 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSLIST] OST + wiki = ProjectWiki<br></font><br>
Hi Christine,<br><br>It's interesting to combine telephone and wiki. Today is probably Skype more convinien. And it's useful indeed. Me and my friend use combination Skype and MindManager (Mind Maping tool) and it is very efficient. I can belief that small groups in breakthrough spaces cold work well.<br><br>Nice regard to Phoenix.<br><br>Danilo<br><br>Christine Whitney Sanchez pravi:<br>> Hi Danilo,<br>> <br>> A couple of years ago, Gabriel Shirley and I used a wiki to organize all of our virtual work with the Girl Scouts of the USA and all of the incredible volunteers who were virtually self-organizing across the US to bring conversations that matter to the Girl Scout Convention.<br>> <br>> One of our experiments was to do a wiki open space. We use wiki pages that had conference call numbers posted on them as "breakout spaces" so that people could be on the phone together and see the notes that were getting co-created on the wiki page at
 the same time. It worked really well.<br>> <br>> I agree that wikis and open space are very compatible.<br>> <br>> Warm wishes from a warm Phoenix evening,<br>> <br>> Christine<br>> <br>> Christine Whitney Sanchez<br>> Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy<br>> +1.480.759.0262<br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com">www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</a><br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">www.innovationpartners.com</a><br>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.promiseusa.com">www.promiseusa.com</a><br>> Skype: christinewhitneysanchez<br><span>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez">http://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez</a></span><br><span>> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez">http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez</a></span><br>> <br>> On Jun 1,
 2010, at 12:02 AM, Danilo Kozoderc wrote:<br>> <br>>> Hello Everybody<br>>> <br>>> Do you have any experiences using wiki in combination with OST?<br>>> <br>>> My friend Aleš and me were using wiki as kind of making notes from groups during Open Spase event. Wiki could be active also after the event and is good oportunity to continue space opened.<br>>> <br>>> Also OST and wiki could share same principles and are very compatibile.<br>>> <br>>> Best regards from Slovenia.<br>>> <br>>> Danilo<br>>> <br>>> *<br>>> *<br>>> ==========================================================<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>>> ------------------------------<br>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,<br>>> view the archives of <a
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