<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I'm Interested in this wonderful skill:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Being totally present and absolutely invisible</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>It is what I aspire to every time I faciltate orvdirect a show and relates very closely to stage presence as It is what I have worked with puppeteers in training to do over the years. (it is especially useful dramatically when you want to disappear and appear as if from nowhere onstage at just the right time. A skill some of the best facilitators have or so I have heard! <div><br></div><div>There is another aspect about this I am interested in which for me relates to what some cultures would call the dreaming aspects of reality.</div><div><br></div><div>So here's the question: Is it possible to be in this state of presence/invisibilty whilst on another space in the room? Or outside the room? Or whilst asleep? </div><div><br></div><div>So can one be totally present, absolutely invisible and take a nap? </div><div><br></div><div>Phelim </div><div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:23, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">Michael – it would be really interesting to hear some
actual situations where what you are describing is true. I’ve never seen
it, but I did hear of one. It happened in South Africa where a local consultant
took Open Space as a license for absence. He literally left for most of the
day. As it turned out (as I heard from one of the participants) the group
really didn’t miss him, and was basically sorry to see him return. And
that same participant was sure that there had to be something more than he had
seen. As a consequence he came to a “training program” (back in the
days when I used to do something like that </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">) and subsequently opened
space all over the place. So I guess there was a happy ending after a rocky
start. Or something. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D">But you really put your finger on something – “active
listening” – which is not so much about doing anything but rather
Being intensely. Definitely hard to describe but my best shot is the enigmatic
phrase – Being totally present and absolutely invisible. In my experience
this is a matter of intention and practice. And the best part is that it is all
definitely rewarding, not only in terms of facilitating Open Space, but equally
in terms of self understanding and personal presence. It feels good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Herman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: On "Failure"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">i have a teacher who likes to
put little reminders on pencils and pass them around. one of my favorite
pencils says: "really easy is often quite difficult." <br>
<br>
i think this is true of open space. i've seen a number of situations
where the facilitator or the process itself was assumed to be a bit of magic,
so nobody needed to do much else to make it happen. this makes all kinds
of large and small "failures" possible -- all owing to some lapses in
the quality of attention, awareness, relationship.<br>
<br>
somebody once told me that carl rogers (some sort of psychologist, i think)
used to listen so intently that he would often break out in a sweat -- just
listening to someone. sometimes i think open space takes this sort of
quality or intensity of attention... or maybe of awareness. that the
heart is this active, even if the body is apparently doing nothing. like
when so many muscles are engaged in walking a balance beam, or timing a
jump. actively pulsing, checking, on and off, holding and releasing,
inviting and reporting. <br>
<br>
i'd guess a fair number of "failures" have their roots in forgetting
that os is this sort of active practice, even if a lot of the action is not
outwardly visible or dramatic or difficult. weirdenss seems to flow from
gaps in clarity, in attention, in awareness, in relationship. not so
much, i think, from gaps in actual outer logistics. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE <<a href="mailto:mail@visuelle-protokolle.de"><a href="mailto:mail@visuelle-protokolle.de">mail@visuelle-protokolle.de</a></a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy">Harrison and all,<br>
<br>
Another example of an OS that went terribly wrong:<br>
<br>
It was a factory producing printing machines, both in Eastern and western
Germany, and the participants were mixed from both areas. We had the o.k. from
the four directors, to whom we had illustrated what to expect, and a final
conference after the OS was already determined. One of the directors, the one
who seemed to be the most employee-oriented, was choosen to say some words at
the end of the OS. Our partner in the company was a young man from HR, very active,
with good contacts to the directors. So he insisted that he should brief the
director what to say at the end of OS.<br>
<br>
Everything went fine. The groups worked with joy and enthusiasm. We accompanied
the whole OS with 3 people visualizing everything, and that was a big success,
because everybody could see what had happened everywhere. After we had
shown the pictures in a final slideshow, the director stood up and destroyed
everything within 5 minutes. He said that he was disappointed, had expected other
outcomes, and that the managers wood have a hard time to use some of the
results.<br>
<br>
That was the end of the project for us, but much worse all the participants
were angry and a big chance was lost for the company.<br>
<br>
Of course the mistake was to let the young HR-man brief the director. <br>
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Reinhard<br>
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Reinhard Kuchenmüller <br>
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Am 03/06/10 18:12 schrieb "Ralph Copleman" unter <<a href="mailto:rcopleman@comcast.net" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:rcopleman@comcast.net">rcopleman@comcast.net</a></a>>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">Harrison and all,<br>
<br>
I've had a few that sort of fell flat.<br>
<br>
One involved a group concerned about availability of services for senior
citizens across an entire US state. Two-thirds of the room consisted of
seniors themselves and, frankly, a lot of them ran out of energy about an hour
after lunch. So they sat around, a number slumping in chairs with eyes
closed.<br>
<br>
Another involved an exploration of customer service issues for an airline.
Lots of corporate leaders from the airline present, along with their
booking agents (this pre-dates internet booking sites), frequent flyer
customers, and corporate travel execs who make travel policy for their companies.
A great mix, actually. We were set to go from 8:00 a.m to 4:00.
About 2:00, a group of participants more or less seized control of the
meeting somehow (I wasn't in the room when it occurred) and got everyone to
agree to shorten the meeting by a full hour. When I returned at 3:00,
someone simply informed me, and asked that I begin the closing circle. So
that's what I did. I never found out what actually happened.<br>
<br>
Not sure how to think about that last one, since I never found out how it all developed,
but the following one is more like a true failure.<br>
<br>
I was asked to convene a two-day open space gathering for about 200 folks from
around the US. It would be the annual meeting of an association of a
certain type of public health officer (cannot recall the details). The
whole thing was pretty dead from the outset –– I mean 200 people
posting a total of only 15 sessions for two whole days!? I found out the
theme was all wrong. The planning committee chose an idea that turned out
to have no juice for the association's members. I had spent hours in
conference calls with the leadership group and the planning committee, and
they'd assured me that the idea they chose was at the heart of the challenges
facing them and their organizations. Turns out that was dead wrong.
Nobody else cared. I don't know how I might have seen through this
situation ahead of time.<br>
<br>
I essentially agree with you, H. If the conditions are appropriate, it
will work. But, if the three experiences above teach me anything, it's
clear that stuff can always happens.<br>
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Ralph Copleman<br>
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