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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Here we go again!  Open Space
is and always has been free. Of course if you want to pay somebody to train you
in something that is yours by birthright, be my guest. That said, it can be
very useful to do something like Lisa provides, as also Michael P and others (myself
on occasion) – when a bunch of good folks collectively explore the wonderful
world of Open Space. I am not sure I would call that training – maybe co-learning
would be closer. However when it comes to “certification” I don’t have a clue
how you would do that. Certainly you can “certify that X participated in a
program”, but whether they have a clue what is going on – who can say? Frankly
when I hear the word “certify” my immediate association is with mental aberrations.
In American English, to say that “somebody is certifiable” means quite simply
that they are nuts. But that might just fit, you know. </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> And
certainly there was a time that if you said you were in Open Space people assumed
you were smoking a controlled substance or had just plain lost it. Ah, The good
old days!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Potomac, MD 20854<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone 301-365-2093<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.openspaceworld.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> OST training and "certification" - the role of OSIs?
(was: Re: [OSLIST] Open Space Facilitation: Making it Work! 28-30 Sep 2010,
Utrecht, The Netherlands<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Jack:</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>This
is a critical problem, in these days.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Was
OST a<b> gift</b> for all people that read the book (or not) and have
a "<b>good heart and a good mind</b>" and where training is an <b>additional
aid</b> for those that need that, or is it a business (or part of a
business) for "self empowered "trainers"? And what is a
"good heart"? And a "good mind"?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Do
the organizers from Merlin (that btw are mostly scholars<span
class=apple-style-span>, but you may became a member and have discounts for
a Standard Individual Membership per year of 59.95 eur) and the
facilitator of the course you mentioned have "a good heart" or an
"old days Kansas" one?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>In
Berlin, I was surprised to see the <b>advertisement of a Program</b> (presented
as if it was a gift to the Access Queen") with a Certification Program
costing 3.800 US $, with a four days part on "Working with OST"
costing 650 US $. These prices are lower or greater the ones you mentioned? And
including OST combined with other methods is still the "free" and
"open" spirit of OST? Is it still OST?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>But
"certification" is often a requisite for grants in the EU and I think
elsewhere too. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Who
(and how) can 'certify' that someone that presents oneself as an "OST
facilitator" is indeed using OST, and not mixing it with other methods
that "facilitate too much" (having, for instance, people presenting
themselves in groups of two, previously to the opening, or having
"reflections in pairs" before the closing, or guiding them through
the stages of Future Search in a so called OST meeting, to give only some
examples)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>I
think that the Open Space Institutes around the world (and only OSIs, and not
other "facilitation organizations", that use OST as <b>one among
many different tools</b>, with many different epistemologies and values, frequently
mixing and confusing them in a single so called OST event) can have a saying in
relation to that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Something
that, IMHO, does that care about the future of OST must consider carefully...</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>Artur</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jack Martin Leith
<jack@leithcocreation.com><br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tue, May 25, 2010 9:11:56 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Open Space Facilitation: Making it Work! 28-30 Sep
2010, Utrecht, The Netherlands</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>My curiosity aroused by the announcement below, I visited <u><span
style='color:#810081'><a
href="http://www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html" target="_blank">www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html</a></span></u><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Very interesting. An OS facilitator training led by ...
well, who, exactly?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>An OS facilitator training for, among others, professional
conference companies.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>An OS facilitator training that costs €795.00.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>An OS facilitator training that provides
participations with "a certificate awarded by the School of Advanced
Facilitation".<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Ladies and gentlemen, 25 years down the track, we are not in
Kansas anymore!<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Jack <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br clear=all>
Jack Martin Leith<br>
Leith Co-creation<br>
email: <a href="mailto:jack@leithcocreation.com" target="_blank">jack@leithcocreation.com</a><br>
Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<br>
Skype: jackmartinleith<br>
Professional website: <a href="http://www.leithcocreation.com" target="_blank">www.leithcocreation.com</a><br>
Personal website: <a href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com" target="_blank">www.jackmartinleith.com</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 24 May 2010 23:59, OST Training <<a
href="mailto:events@merlien.org" target="_blank">events@merlien.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>Open Space Facilitation: Making it work!<br>
How to design, plan and execute unconference meetings successfully<br>
28-30 September 2010, Utrecht<br>
Event website: <a href="http://www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html"
target="_blank">http://www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html</a><br>
<br>
About the workshop:<br>
The International Open Space Facilitator workshop, co-organised by the<br>
School of Advanced Facilitation (SAF) and Merlien Institute will be held on<br>
the 28-30 September 2010 in Utrecht, The Netherlands. Open Space offers your<br>
participants more than just talks, questions and poster sessions. It builds<br>
on the knowledge people bring to the event, harness their passion and give<br>
them the responsibility for discussing what really matters to them in a<br>
self-organising conference format. This workshop, conducted in English wiill<br>
equip you with the essential skills to design and execute an open space<br>
workshop or incorporate open space within your existing conference formats.<br>
<br>
Who should attend:<br>
This workshop is for meeting organisers and facilitators who will offer<br>
their participants the opportunity to tackle complex issues in a highly<br>
interactive, productive and self-structured "unconference"
environment. The<br>
workshop is designed with meeting organisers and facilitators in mind who<br>
work for government agencies, educational institutions, European programmes<br>
and projects, professional conference companies and industry associations.<br>
<br>
Take advantage of this unique opportunity to equip yourself with skills to<br>
design and execute successful open space events. This two and half days<br>
course includes refreshments and lunches. Early-Bird registration is now<br>
open! To register, please visit:<br>
<a href="http://www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html" target="_blank">http://www.merlien.org/upcoming-events/osft2010.html</a><br>
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