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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It sure was inspiring for us as organizers to have all of you
out there contributing and involve yourselves with us at site in Swenmark. I
remember we used the term off-site participants. We had a beamer to show new
posts immediately and we also made copies to the reports I think. And it was so
much fun to have a team of “helpers” out there to assist with whatever
technicalities we bumped into – great teamwork! Txs again!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>För </b>Michael Herman<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 20 maj 2010 07:50<br>
<b>Till:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>i'd forgotten this altogether,
artur. and going back now to see it, i think we were rather ahead of our
time. wikis were really new. i don't know if wikipedia had even
started yet. <br>
<br>
i thought the osonos cafe was rather remarkable: 5 days and as best i can
count, 27 different people checking in, from oz, europe (at the gathering and
not), usa, canada. harrison chimed in from maine. it was all in
english, but it didn't have to be. that wiki could handle spanish or
french or haitian creole just fine. <br>
<br>
if you've never been to an osonos gathering, this page is a pretty good teaser,
as are some others, like the one you flagged, artur... <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/OSonOSCafe">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/OSonOSCafe</a>
...and some good notes in the debriefing session, too. <br>
<br>
i guess the progress we made in marysville and svenmark got a bit lost when
osonos went to india the following year. maybe next year -- if not sooner
-- we can pick up a bit where we left off. openspaceworld.NET is still
wide open for hosting and posting, for any osonos or other event. <br>
<br>
----<br>
<br>
by the way, there is a fun story behind how wiki and open space came
together. i was facilitating an open space track at the 'agile/extreme
programming' conference in chicago in 2002. a guy named chris wege from
stuttgart showed me how to set up a wiki and i taught him and some others about
ost. we both went off and used what we learned -- and used it a
lot. so these bits abotu agile using ost and ost using wiki always makes
me smile. <br>
<br>
thanks for the reminding, artur.<br>
<br>
m<br>
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Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
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<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
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312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2010/5/20 Artur Silva <<a
href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Thomas and Michael H. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It was indeed the SwenMark OSonOS (2003) I was referring...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>(I had planned to go, but then an helth problem, discovered
in the previous month, did not allow me to go (and the organizers, did not
obliged me to pay anything for the cancelation of my pre-commitement to go).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Anyhow, from my house, I could follow the discussions and
even participate in it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have selected a page (of the first session of the
Proceeedings) to show what was happennning. <b>The proceedings were being typed
in the wiki immediatly after the session</b>. That allowed for a follow up
discussion, and even for further comments, either by presencial participants or
by anyone that could not came, for whatever reason. Being ill, I had the free
time to participate (indirectly?) myself, which I did. I felt has if I was
(almost) there. See this session as an example: <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/HowToLearnToBeHappyWithWhatHappens"
target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/HowToLearnToBeHappyWithWhatHappens</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Artur<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Herman <<a
href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelherman.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thu, May 20, 2010 12:39:02 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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all of the proceeding from marysville, australia, were posted to a wiki.
this was one of the earliest uses of the wiki that still holds half of the
content of the <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.ORG" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.ORG</a>
website. that was 2002, osonos10. i was there in marysville and
played caretaker for the whole wiki process. we had a regular document,
too, but a bit more happened online than in that doc. <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia"
target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia</a><br>
<br>
then, the following year, thomas and friends posted all the svenmark notes from
osonos11. those got posted at the new <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.NET" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.NET</a>
side of things. <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark"
target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark</a><br>
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after that, the planners for goa did not apparently have an interest in
continuing this and things when in another direction. <br>
<br>
and, yes, as artur says, we had wikis set up for many languages, haitian,
iberia (spanish and portuguese), estonia, italian, maybe french, too. <br>
<br>
i've offered web support to osonos hosts since then, but as more and more
options became available and known and accessible to people everywhere, nobody
else has taken me up on this.<br>
<br>
personally, i think i prefer a weblog format for posting notes, unless there is
a bunch of action and work and other meetings going to spring from a
gathering. <br>
<br>
looking forward to the new wiki, and wondering if it'll be the sort of place
where many future osonos's can be reported.<br>
<br>
thanks, m <br>
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--<br>
<br>
Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
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<a href="http://www.michaelherman.com" target="_blank">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com" target="_blank">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org" target="_blank">http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
<br>
312-280-7838 (mobile)<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thomas Herrmann <<a
href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com" target="_blank">thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Artur</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>During the 11th World OSonOS in “Swenmark”
(2003) we used a wiki to capture proceedings and invite people to participate
on distance during, before and after the event. The proceedings and the wiki is
to be found among the other OSonOS proceedings on <a href="http://OSW.org"
target="_blank">OSW.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>With assistance from Michael, Chris and others
it worked wonderfully! I think.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Best regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thomas Herrmann</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Från:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b>För </b>Artur Silva<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 19 maj 2010 23:50<br>
<b>Till:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: Online WOSonOS Documentation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Dear Holger and others:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Thank you for creating the Wiki for WOSonOS 2010
online digital documentation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>I have already sighed in. But I would like to
request to the two "note takers" of the two sessions I have convened,
if they could be so kind to "interpret" their own characters and put
the report in the Wiki. Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Anyhow, Holger, from your post it may seem that
it is the first time the OST community is using Wikis. And it is not. 9 years
ago, in 2001, Michael Herman created the space <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.net/" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>http://www.openspaceworld.net/</span></a>,
that was, and still is, a Wiki. In that same year, some of the
"international language pages", then created, have used wikis,
and the Iberian one still is in an wiki (<a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?</span></a>),
now closed due to spam and short of resources to cleaning it up every day.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>And in one of the two following years (I think
the next one, but I am not sure), all the reports have been created <b>directly
in a wiki </b>(that I cannot find anymore) where they could be edited and
commented by anyone in the world in real time, thus giving the possibility to
anyone that could not came to OSonOS to have a sense of what was happening and
really commenting. (What can be more inclusive than that?). Maybe that
could be something to have repeated in one (or both) of the two following
WOSonOS's - next year in Chile and/or in London, in 2012...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:black'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Artur
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Holger
Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <<a
href="mailto:h.nauheimer@change-facilitation.org" target="_blank">h.nauheimer@change-facilitation.org</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <<a
href="mailto:h.nauheimer@change-facilitation.org" target="_blank">h.nauheimer@change-facilitation.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wed, May 19, 2010 12:06:09 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Online WOSonOS Documentation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>Dear WOSonOS participants and friends,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>As we have announced in the action planning of
the WOSonOS, we want to do an online documentation of the results of the
WOSonOS. For that, we have created a Wiki. A Wiki is a document which we can
edit all – it has the spirit of Open Space. Don’t worry, writing in a Wiki is
as simple as writing in a Word document.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>This is a great experiment – because not only
the conveners but all participants can take responsibility to convert the
handwritten materials into typed script. Let us do t like an Open Space –
self-organized.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>Please read the following instructions VERY
CAREFULLY:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>1.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>We start with the documentation of the
proceedings; the action planning will come a bit later.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>2.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>With a separate email, you will get an
invitation for our Wiki (from the software company PbWorks). You will need to
follow this invitation to create an account. Please be assured that your data
are secure, this is a professional business version of a commercial programme.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>3.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>On the landing page (after you have created
your account) you will find detailed instructions of how to proceed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>4.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>If you absolutely don’t want to use the Wiki
for any reason, you might also send us a Word file with the text you have
typed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>5.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>I made the status of all of you that of
writers –meaning you cannot create or delete pages. If you want to be an
editor, please let me know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>6.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>There is also comment functions: we can
have discussions about all issues and continue the discussions of the WOSonOS.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>7.</span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#244061'> </span><span
lang=EN-US style='color:#244061'>This will not work if we are not passionate
about and if we don’t take our responsibility</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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