<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thank you for this reply Lisa--and for asking this question Annamarie. <div><br></div><div>I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your response Lisa. It is easy for me, when i am passionate about something (and i'm pretty passionate about OST), to get very focused on the benefits and good reasons for using a particular approach--and to sometimes forget to take that extra step back (open the space) and look at who the client is, where they are at, and what will serve them best as they are right now. There is a covert reminder in what you say: that OST is not the only way to open space. That has a lot more to do with my presence and example. </div><div><br></div><div>There is so much innate respect in your approach, Lisa. I find that there can be a kind of process-arrogance that can creep in for me (especially when i am a participant in other less open forms). And even though it's based on solid experience, it can still be disrespectful at some level to others who have not had the benefit of that experience. Or the privilege and opportunity to learn. You also point to a disrespect of the process itself--to ask a form to stretch and deliver in all circumstances is unwise. Better to remember the essence and do my best to uphold that. Your sharing has stirred me to revisit my commitment to absolute respect: for my clients and those present, for the processes i love, and for myself as a convenor.</div><div><br></div><div>big hugs,</div><div>Wendy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div> <br><div><div>On 15-Apr-10, at 11:27 AM, Lisa Heft wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">(<i>okay, here also is my test to see if I am back on the OSLIST, able to post and to receive - thanks Michael for your thoughtful attention and thanks to the Boise person as well...here...goes... with my signature in its colored font intact - if this does not work I will try with a plain text signature...</i>)<div><br></div><div>Thanks for inviting this, Annamarie -</div><div><br></div><div>It helps me explore where my own points of 'going for it' are - and where I tell a client it is not the right tool when there is so short a time:</div><div><br></div><div>I have also done very short Open Spaces - I bow to Jeff Aitken who inspired me in this area when I was holding so tightly to 'no shorter than three or four hours'.</div><div><br></div><div>However, I am a big believer of analyzing overarching objectives, desired outcomes, context of the task and what comes before and after this particular meeting connected to that task, designing in appropriate and useful participant-driven documentation and more.</div><div><br></div><div>I then ask myself: with this short a time availability, and for these objectives and desired outcomes, what is the right tool for the deliverables? (in<span class="Apple-style-span" style="text-decoration: underline;">cluding</span> Open Space, World Cafe and other great dialogic tools - and knowing that Open Space has different deliverables depending on the amount of meeting time). </div><div><br></div><div>I am also passionate about access and inclusion. So another question I ask myself is - is making very short discussion rounds or only a few minutes to post topics favoring only the quick responders in the room - and does that give a sense of the overall group's interests or issues.</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">I consider how one of the useful elements of Open Space is *multiple* sessions so people can see their thoughts link and change across the sessions, and as the conversations progress, notice things they didn't see before.</span></font></font></span></i></span></font></div><div><br></div><div>I am also very big on documentation - a way to provide data for the ongoing work of the group - more than the feeling of the moment of conversation.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">I ask the host if more time is available (including that lunch, including that networking time - whatever I can get to expand the meeting length) and I explain why more is better.</span></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#811107" size="1"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 9px; "><i><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal; "><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; ">I explore what other designs would deliver what the host is asking for in a way that allows for reflection or emergence or breathing room.</span></font></span></font></i></span></font></div><div><br></div><div>And if I end up using OS (which I have done on occasion for such a short time) it is because there is no other alternative which will provide the desired outcomes and deliverables in this short of a timeframe. </div><div><br></div><div>I do not use a part of Open Space and call it Open Space. If I use one element or adjust it (for example just the part about inviting people to think of topics they are passionate about, making a sign, posting it on the wall and being amazed at the diversity of thought) I do not call it Open Space.</div><div><br></div><div>And I look out for opportunities to invite the group or host to a full-on Open Space sometime soon, so they will come to know the difference in what is possible and how the mind (and relationships, and networking, and discovery) work over longer times in Open Space together.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for inviting the question - I had fun opening up my brain to see how I do things when asked to do short Open Spaces.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Lisa</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><b><br></b></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 14px; font-weight: bold; ">Lisa Heft</span></div></span></b></span></font></div><div>Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; 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